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« on: August 22, 2013, 08:08:48 PM » |
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I'm doing a speaker upgrade and now know what people are talking about!!  Taking off my speaker covers, only 2 screws came out and some of the brass will not come out! I've hammered, pulled, and tried about everything! I don't want to spray penetrating fluid when I plan on JB welding it............IF I can get them out!  Any tricks? |
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wiggydotcom
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 08:17:25 PM » |
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If I remember right, for the ones I was sure the insert was spinning on, I got a screwdriver in behind the cover and carefully pried on them until the inserts popped out with the screws intact.
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BIG--T
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 08:30:46 PM » |
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If I remember right, for the ones I was sure the insert was spinning on, I got a screwdriver in behind the cover and carefully pried on them until the inserts popped out with the screws intact.
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Yes I did the same and have some inserts in the plastic turning and some don't wanna come off! Maybe tomorrow will be a better day!  |
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2013, 07:59:49 AM » |
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I used a putty knife. It gave me more width to twist when prying. Be gentle with it though. After you get the first side off, you kind of see what you are actually dealing with and the other side is easier. One of my thread inserts/mounts was cross threaded from factory and had to get a new one. They are about $4 each.
I would recommend anti seize on threads. Be careful not to get JB Weld on threads. I left screws in while drying.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2013, 08:29:05 AM » |
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You can just get a butter knife and pull out on the speaker cover while turning the screw. The insert will spin in the "socket", but will come out. I clean them up and JB Weld them back in place. Like was stated, don't get the JB Weld on the threads. I then use antisieze on the screws AND a small rubber o-ring. This o-ring stops a lot of the rattles you hear when going over bumps in the road or railroad tracks. Sort of like rubber mounting the faring. You don't have to tighten the screws as tight either as the o-ring acts like a lock washer. Hay  Jimmyt |
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2013, 08:43:47 AM » |
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Ditto on working a putty knife behind the plastic, as close as possible to the screw. Gentle pressure to pull back on the plastic. And using a power driver helps greatly in getting the insert to spin in the plastic. Once the screw and insert come out, use pliers or vice grip to hold the insert while removing the screw. Don't let the insert get lost! I have been told by the local repair shop that they are not available as new parts. I need several, and will have to make them myself.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2013, 12:11:45 PM » |
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Thanks y'all for all the help. I got them all out and fixing to glue them on. Jimmy thx for the o ring tip, makes sense! Now does anyone know of good homemade sound backing stuff I can use? They got some stuff on Amazon for $130 but I ain't gonna wait or pay that much! |
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wiggydotcom
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2013, 12:14:23 PM » |
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Don't let the insert get lost! I have been told by the local repair shop that they are not available as new parts. I need several, and will have to make them myself.
Some have found aftermarket vendors for the inserts, but I bought Honda ones just last year. As of then, they were still available. |
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2013, 12:49:39 PM » |
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I bought a few this summer and they were still available. The fairing inserts are 90316-MJ1-000 NUT, INSERT (5X0. $2.85. tkylli |
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2013, 05:16:46 PM » |
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Thanks y'all for all the help. I got them all out and fixing to glue them on. Jimmy thx for the o ring tip, makes sense! Now does anyone know of good homemade sound backing stuff I can use? They got some stuff on Amazon for $130 but I ain't gonna wait or pay that much! BIG--T, this is some stuff I used to line the inside of the transmission covers I bought at IZ. I bought it at the local auto parts store. I think it was around $20. It sure insulated the inside of those tranny covers. I think one package would cover the back side of the speaker covers.  Hay Jimmyt |
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2013, 06:10:48 PM » |
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If I remember right, for the ones I was sure the insert was spinning on, I got a screwdriver in behind the cover and carefully pried on them until the inserts popped out with the screws intact.
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Yes I did the same and have some inserts in the plastic turning and some don't wanna come off! Maybe tomorrow will be a better day! Ditto. Than break them loose and re-install.  |
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2013, 08:20:11 PM » |
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Thanks y'all for all the help. I got them all out and fixing to glue them on. Jimmy thx for the o ring tip, makes sense! Now does anyone know of good homemade sound backing stuff I can use? They got some stuff on Amazon for $130 but I ain't gonna wait or pay that much! BIG--T, this is some stuff I used to line the inside of the transmission covers I bought at IZ. I bought it at the local auto parts store. I think it was around $20. It sure insulated the inside of those tranny covers. I think one package would cover the back side of the speaker covers. Hay Jimmyt Thanks Jimmy- that's exactly what I need!! |
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2013, 11:27:54 PM » |
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If you don't mind some extra work, some IS owners have insulated the faring itself and installed the speakers without the back housings...
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