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Author Topic: Transmission comming out of 2nd gear  (Read 1482 times)
bernie g
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« on: September 06, 2013, 09:53:02 AM »

I am having a issue with my transmission, it is coming out of 2nd gear when slowing down. Other than that the bike runs great, I have about 110K on the bike and the issue started about a month ago. I have hade the bike since 2005 and it had 6600 miles on it. I have a heel toe shifter but that's been on the bike since 2006. when you take off and shift into 2nd gear and then let off the gas that's when it pops out of 2nd gear and back into neutral.
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Patrick
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2013, 10:54:36 AM »

How long have you had this bike ? Have you put the 110K on it ? I'm asking because the only issue causing this problem is not having it fully in gear. These need to be shifted with ' authority '. But, if you have had this bike for some time then maybe something is wrong, which is rare.
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BigM
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2013, 11:07:37 AM »

Do you have stock shifter or kickshifter?
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Earl in Pensacola
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2013, 03:58:33 PM »

If you have an OEM shift lever, have you replaced the oil seal?  If you did maybe you didn't get the shifter back in the correct position thus maybe causing you to not get it fully into each gear. (??)
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gordonv
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2013, 08:36:05 PM »

It's already been mentioned, shift with authority.

Also, did you change the oil lately (since the problem started)?
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2013, 08:55:07 AM »

I am having a issue with my transmission, it is coming out of 2nd gear while when slowing down. Other than that the bike runs great, I have about 110K on the bike and the issue started about a month ago.
Sounds to me that your problem could be operator error.

Do this: Take off, shift like normal, from first to second gear, speed up more and then let off the gas.

Does it still jump out of gear?

If it does not jump out of gear with this test

You have no problem.

Hint:  Stop down shifting to slow down.

Your brakes are there for that.

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2000_Valkyrie_Interstate
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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 02:57:32 PM »

I like shifting to slow down is there a problem with that?
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 03:25:33 PM »

I just replaced my front brake pads yesterday, had about 70,000 miles on those, and they still had a little pad left.  I have never replaced the rear brake pads, have 126,000 on those. I downshift all the time.  I thought downshifting was normal.
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garyheskett All 49 x 3 st.louis
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 03:55:38 PM »

Jeez, my memory???  I meant to add that if I wear tennis shoes that  on rare occasions I shift to second and it drops back to neutral.  When I wear boots, it never happens. And if you pre-load the shifter, it will shift without the "clunk" most of the time (at least on mine).
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2013, 04:51:29 PM »

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Hint:  Stop down shifting to slow down.

Your brakes are there for that.
???

I've gotta have over a million miles on motocycles in the last 40+ years and have always downshifted to slow down.  Never had a problem at all.  Heck, on the motocrossers, didn't even use the clutch.

Course, they were all Honda's. cooldude




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I downshift all the time.  I thought downshifting was normal.

It is were I come from.
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2013, 04:55:23 PM »

Opps. just remembered.  I did wreck a damper plate, but I'm pretty sure that was from up-shifting hard to chirp the tire, something I don't do anymore Embarrassed
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Len
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2013, 06:06:20 PM »

Not the same issue, mine sticks in 2nd....have to slow down and/or hit  the shift lever twice to get it to return so I can shift....only happens on hard acceleration.  I will follow this thread to for your solution.

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Patrick
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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2013, 07:09:51 AM »

Apparently the original poster isn't too concerned. It took 3 days for him to edit his first post and tell us more of the story. We haven't heard anything since.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2013, 08:59:14 AM »

I think it's a whole lot cheaper to replace brake pads than clutch components.

And I also believe the damper plate takes a beating when downshifting aggressively.

I have never seen or heard any manufacturer recommend using downshifting to slow down a motorcycle.

It used to be a pretty common practice (downshifting) when the motorcycles had drum brakes.

Now with disc brakes, downshifting is not not a necessary thing to do. And you will put additional wear and tear, plus unnecessary strain on the clutch components.

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2000_Valkyrie_Interstate
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2013, 12:59:53 PM »

I ride a Motorcycle all day at work. Harley police bike have been down shifting in the city for years and have never had a problem. If down shifting causes all these problems do not tell the super bike guys . I think if you know how to do it correctly it hurts nothing. It is when you over Rev the Motor or miss the gear which can all be done when you up shift. I down shift and apply brakes. police
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