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« on: September 28, 2013, 06:47:38 PM » |
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Do I remember reading somewhere on this forum about breaking drive cups if you didn't so something during the rear tire removal??? Inform me....educate me  |
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Dennis
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2013, 07:52:38 PM » |
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If your talking about the pinion cup it is something that should be checked whenever you pull the rear tire. it is at the front of the final drive and connects to the driveshaft. Remove the four final drive bolts and slide the driveshaft and all out of the swingarm. Remove the driveshaft from the cup with a quick jerk or tapping the cup with a soft hammer hold the whole assembly by the shaft about an inch of the floor with some soft towels between the floor and the final drive and give it a bum. Splines in cup and on shaft should be cleaned and checked.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2013, 03:27:46 AM » |
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Do I remember reading somewhere on this forum about breaking drive cups if you didn't so something during the rear tire removal??? Inform me....educate me OK.....You have to remove the rear wheel to remove the tire. You dont however have to remove the final drive to remove the wheel, so No you cannot damage the pinion cup during the removal of the wheel or removing the tire from the wheel. If you remove the final drive to check and grease the pinion cup and drive shaft, I still dont see how anyone could damage that "cup" during the removal process. The mistake people make is NOT removing the final drive, thinking its too hard to mess with the drive shaft and so the grease drys up inside the cup and failure, being stranded, spending money on new parts ensues. Additionally greasing the splines in the cup and the drive splines is critical, and the torquing sequence during re-assembly is also most critical. If you dont remove the final drive, you still need to loosen the four mounting bolts attaching it to make sure the final drive alignes to the wheel. Grease needs to be applied MOSTLY to the female splines (final drive side) to avoid most of the grease being pushed off while mounting the wheel to the final drive. There is a slide show in Shop talk that shows this process. Doing it wrong will cost $$ I hope this clears it up |
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sawdustar
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2013, 05:22:56 AM » |
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OK, this makes much more sense to me now. Thank You.!!!
I'm willing to say what I think....so here goes......
I know the previous owner, he was not mechanically inclined. He told me that the only thing ever done to the bike was oil, filter, air filter, tires, tuneup, and he had the final drive oil checked.
With that said, I changed the final drive oil for the first time since the bike was made.
I'm also willing to bet that the final drive/shaft maintenance and lube has never been done.
I will go check out the slide show on this procedure. Much appreciated.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2013, 07:15:27 AM » |
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Perhaps what you're remembering is the danger of lifting the bike, disconnecting the rear shocks, and allowing the wheel to drop unsupported so it puts tremendous stress on the u-joint, sometimes breaking the cups that the needle bearings are in.
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sawdustar
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2013, 09:13:40 AM » |
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Perhaps what you're remembering is the danger of lifting the bike, disconnecting the rear shocks, and allowing the wheel to drop unsupported so it puts tremendous stress on the u-joint, sometimes breaking the cups that the needle bearings are in.
Yea, that may be what I read. I've read so much lately that my head can't keep it all straight.  |
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2013, 10:45:50 AM » |
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Do I remember reading somewhere on this forum about breaking drive cups if you didn't so something during the rear tire removal??? Inform me....educate me I hope this clears it up  I miss the Far Side. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2013, 08:34:29 PM » |
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Cool
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The most expensive things you will purchase, are those things you would not have needed if you had listened and obeyed.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2013, 12:21:11 AM » |
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Too funny Moonshot..!!!!!  |
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2013, 03:00:55 AM » |
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Theres a slide show on this? If so, where?
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2013, 03:24:14 AM » |
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There is a slide show in Shop talk that shows this process. Doing it wrong will cost $$ |
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sawdustar
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2013, 08:31:17 AM » |
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Theres a slide show on this? If so, where?
Go to the "Shoptalk" section on this site (link just above the "Profile" link in the top 1/3 of your screen) and look on the Left Side for an article called: Rear End Service by ChrisJClick on that link and it will download a PowerPoint slide show that ChrisJ did. If you don't have a PowerPoint viewer, let me know and I can covert it to PDF format for you. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2013, 06:08:24 PM » |
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Thanks a lot! Now were talking!!!!!!!!!!  |
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