FloridaValkRyder
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If your offended , you need a history lesson!!
Apopka, Florida
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..things I have ever seen and I have seen it way too much. Coming home from work today drove up on a minor motorcycle-vs-car crash. FD was already on scene, looked like the car turned in front of the bike, probably low speed judging by the amount of traffic and minor damage to the side of the car. It was a nice pretty Harley Road King. The guy and girl from the bike were sitting at the back of the rescue truck being tended to by the Paramedics, blood on their faces and hands, blood in the girls hair.
And there for all to see, almost as a trophy to their stupidity, were two beautiful, color matching modular helmets strapped to the back of the bike, which was on it's side. I'm sorry, just my opinion, but why even carry them if you aren't going to wear them. It appeared all their injuries were from the neck up as I got a pretty good look stopped right next to them...I guess I will never understand the choice.
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 05:40:01 PM » |
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Sometimes you feel like a nut, and sometimes you think like one. I agree If you're not going to wear a helment, Why carry it around with you? It only works if you're Wearing it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 06:09:06 PM » |
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Wait....Harley owners own helmets?!?  |
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 06:18:52 PM » |
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And then you see the guy on the Zip and Splat (Crotch Rocket)(Sport Bike) take your pick go by you doing 200 MPH and his helmet is flapping in the breeze hanging off the rear somewhere. Used to wear 3/4 helmet. Saw a couple of post accident pictures of riders faces that wore them. Maybe not much better but wear full face flip up now. Gives me a warmer fuzzier feeling anyway.  |
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FloridaValkRyder
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If your offended , you need a history lesson!!
Apopka, Florida
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 07:24:30 PM » |
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Well, after posting this I realized many of my friends on this board choose not to wear a helmet. I didn't mean to offend any one on your choice of not wearing one. As most of you know, I was a Fireman/Paramedic with the Altamonte Springs FD for 28 years and have seen way too many serious or fatal head injury crashes on bikes. Still, it's your choice. I just didn't see the point of hauling it around tied on the back. So, no offense meant and to those who PM'd me, I sincerely apologize. I do wear a 3/4 Terry and am researching the full face flip ups for me and the wife as we speak. Wait....Harley owners own helmets?!? I guess some do own them just not wear them...  |
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John Schmidt
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a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike
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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2013, 07:31:31 PM » |
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I've always maintained that a wheel chair is much more restrictive than a helmet. I agree Jeff, carrying the helmet with you instead of wearing it is about as brilliant as carrying a weapon and leaving the bullets at home.
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MP
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1997 Std Valkyrie and 2001 red/blk I/S w/sidecar
North Dakota
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 05:51:22 AM » |
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I've always maintained that a wheel chair is much more restrictive than a helmet. I agree Jeff, carrying the helmet with you instead of wearing it is about as brilliant as carrying a weapon and leaving the bullets at home.
Just like some places that allow you to carry, but the gun MUST be unloaded!  Wife and I are headed to FL in Jan and Feb. Will check back and see if any riding going on. |
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 10:44:09 AM » |
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I've seen a number of riders who cross jurisdictions between mandatory helmet laws and no-mandatory helmet and will carry a helmet with them to put on before crossing into a mandatory jurisdiction and getting ticketed for being out of compliance. I don't know if that was the case in this instance but I can imagine how much I would hate the thought of being inches from a perfectly good helmet while I'm sailing over the handlebars. Arkansas is a state that lets riders over 21 make their own decision about wearing a helmet so I make my own decision about it. I don't know about surrounding states but it doesn't much matter unless one of them outlaws helmets.  |
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FloridaValkRyder
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If your offended , you need a history lesson!!
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2013, 04:58:43 PM » |
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Wife and I are headed to FL in Jan and Feb. Will check back and see if any riding going on.
Let us know. That is good riding time for us. What part of the "Sunshine State" are you coming to? |
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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2013, 05:12:08 PM » |
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Hey....Lesa and I were sitting at a restaurant over in Daytona on the Main St. Bridge. Just for the heck of it we started counting who wears helmets and who doesn't.
We counted 100 motorcycles and it was 76/24 no helmets to helmets. There were a lot more helmeted heads on non-Harley cycles as well....ie. Sport bikes and Goldwings.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2013, 06:49:18 PM » |
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Pappy bet you could get that study gov funded.  I feel everyone should make their own choice, but... I'm on 3 wheels and wear one all the time, I like the shape of my head. This is NOT a helmet free state, but a Ins run state. Most don't read the small print. Good topic! Ride Safe |
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jaxpalmtree
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Life's Short Enjoy The Ride!
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2013, 04:10:15 AM » |
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Maybe they were carrying them in case it rains I have a good friend who rides a Road King, she tried to lecture me about my foot wear (tennis shoes) this one day, she said I should have an ankle cover, LOL, well I told her she needed a Head Cover, as she rides without a helmet. Go figure  |
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FloridaValkRyder
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2013, 05:00:08 AM » |
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That makes sense to me too Jax. You're always hearing about all those massive, life threatening foot injuries.. ???
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2013, 11:03:58 AM » |
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Yes Jeff, it is quite interesting the amount of money folks spend adding chrome and bling to their rides but fail to understand the need for proper safety equipment. Now granted proper riding equipment doesn't guarantee anything but if you can increase your "survivability" chances isn't that worth something? I know I may be a little dorky riding with a reflective vest, ($25), a modular helmet,($450), riding gloves,($45), full riding boots,($230), long sleeved shirt,($10), eye protection,(standard James issue)($?) and not going on to my riding leathers, jackets, etc. but, I am increasing my odds the best I can, for what...$750 bucks, big deal compared to major grief of even a minor incident.
While I was locking up to walk Daytona Main street a Harley man next to me was leaving, he hopped on his HD made some noise and dumped his bike inches from mine. I looked over to see him slam his head on the ground as well as the bike....he forgot to take his caliper lock off the front rotor. His buddy's were already leaving. I told him he needed to tie a string on his handlebars as a reminder....as he took the lock off. Then he didn't know how to lift his bike properly so I showed him as he was on his way to dumping it on the other side; possibility of it dumping onto mine almost T'd me off. Anyway, no helmet, an abrasion to the temple, I suggested he might want to have that looked at over at the med station. Well, off he zoomed. The point being, this is how these things happen; doesn't have to be a road incident to have head trauma; even an inexpensive helmet would have kept his noggin safe. I know he had the money for a helmet; he had a vest that had to at least cost what some type of headgear costs, and he had a pretty blinged out HD.
Gear is a choice in our state, that's just how it is. My old riding partner made his choice several years ago not to have a helmet. It has cost him his entire lifestyle to this day. I preached to him for years prior about wearing a lid...it did no good. So I don't preach safety to anyone anymore. I'll just continue looking like a dork, enjoying the vast beauty of the road scape's, vistas and towns I pass through enjoying our past times on two wheels.
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2013, 11:28:09 AM » |
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I learned the value of gear several years ago, side swiped at 70 mph by an idiot that changed lanes with out looking. I was tossed in the air for about 25 to 30 ft. hit the pavement and slid for quite a ways. Wearing a modular helmet, it looked like it went through a wood chipper, was ground into the liner in a couple places. Made a believer out of me. I broke several ribs, right elbow and lost a good amount of hide, but with out the helmet, I would not be here to tell the story. The gear can be uncomfortable, hot etc, but the alternatives are much worse.
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MP
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1997 Std Valkyrie and 2001 red/blk I/S w/sidecar
North Dakota
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2013, 12:48:30 PM » |
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Wife and I are headed to FL in Jan and Feb. Will check back and see if any riding going on.
Let us know. That is good riding time for us. What part of the "Sunshine State" are you coming to? Right after Christmas, we are heading for the coast down near Houston. Then, we are going to work our way along the coast toward FL. We have to be a little south of Bradenton the 2nd week of Feb. Then, will stay a few weeks longer. Other than the 2nd week of Feb, no plans. Taking the toyhauler fifth wheel, with the IS sidecar rig in back, camping along the way. Will post as we get going. Hope to ride with some of you FL riders! MP |
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« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2013, 03:35:28 PM » |
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Maybe they were carrying them in case it rains I have a good friend who rides a Road King, she tried to lecture me about my foot wear (tennis shoes) this one day, she said I should have an ankle cover, LOL, well I told her she needed a Head Cover, as she rides without a helmet. Go figure Tennis shoes is all I ever wear. But then again, I wear a helmet too. |
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2013, 06:24:00 PM » |
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I find it funny when a rider will wear boots, chaps, leather jacket and gloves in the name of safety and then not wear a helmet. We all know it's a fashion statement not a safety thing. That being said I will fight for their right to choose to wear a helmet or not. I just choose to wear one.  |
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