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« on: December 03, 2013, 11:12:45 AM » |
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Being 5' 7'' 165 lbs. I find the bars on da valk to be a bit out of reach..  I have already rolled em back, n' still can not comfortably,,, use the corbin back rest, n' have both hands,,,, on da bars...  My question is, what size riser is the biggest back offset one, that will work with the stock cables, wires, n' hoses? N' where is the best place to buy em from? Pic o' da beast in ''downtown'' Yankeetown..  Thanks, Jim
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2013, 11:35:34 AM » |
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I like using take off real HD Deuce risers. There are fake Deuce ones, of questionable quality. I like ones HD riders take off their Deuces, in favor of different ones. Usually about $50
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2013, 12:20:29 PM » |
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2013, 12:21:29 PM » |
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I installed a pair of LaMonts [LaMonster's]. However that along with a TBR clamp I didn't like the needed routing of the original cables and ended up installing 3" longer ones.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2013, 12:43:42 PM » |
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Only having the single picture you posted, I will say that
the handle bars on your Valkyrie do not look stock to me.
They look taller and wider, like beach bars.
Because of your trouble reaching the bars and still using the back rest:
It would probably be better to get narrower bars that would be able to
reach farther back and get your hands closer together.
Easy solution and still maintain good control of the bike.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2013, 01:09:07 PM » |
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Only having the single picture you posted, I will say that
the handle bars on your Valkyrie do not look stock to me.
They look taller and wider, like beach bars.
Because of your trouble reaching the bars and still using the back rest:
It would probably be better to get narrower bars that would be able to
reach farther back and get your hands closer together.
Easy solution and still maintain good control of the bike.
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Some, pics of da bars...      I have no idea if they are after market errr,,, what.... I could take some measurements,,,, iffin dat will help determine,,,,,,,,,, what I have? 
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2013, 01:14:29 PM » |
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Well, does it matter about the bars? You have what you have, and you need taller, and more pullback. Looks like oem risers. So, advice still holds. Get HD Deuce risers.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2013, 03:10:32 PM » |
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I really hate to get in these types of discourse but I will say this:
The bars look to be aftermarket and the cables have already been re-arranged.
Risers are mainly to get the bars higher not more rearward although there is a bit of displacement to the rear in most all risers.
You may have to do something with the cables if you get the risers already mentioned because the cable you already have may not be long enough.
On the other hand bars that are not spread out as wide as your bars appear (they look like beach bars to me) and there are many bars where the grips are closer together and can reach farther back without having to do anything like new cables.
It just takes a lot of searching.
And if you do make the changes you would like, be sure to consider your foot placement on the pedals which may cause you to have to change seating position in order to shift or brake.
I would suggest to make a bracket that will relocate the backrest closer to the front, this being the most practical solution.
By relocating the backrest you keep everything the same, you're already used to the way that is, and there will be no readjustment to your riding position.
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« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2013, 04:42:00 PM » |
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No matter who makes the risers you use, make adjustments that fit YOU. I'm 6' 2" and found changes were needed for long range riding comfort. I found risers that went up 2 and back 2 inches and then added a set of Harley Heritage bars. Taller and narrower by a bunch and didn't have to mess with cable length either. WAY more comfortable all around for me. Made low speed handling much better too.
It took some messing with but I've never had a bike that I could leave alone and make no changes. You'll get it! Just keep playing with it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2013, 06:36:02 PM » |
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OK, on second look, I may be mistaken. The pic from underneath make the bars look stock, but the rest of the pics seem to show more rise than stock. In any event, inspect your cables for play and if you have a little wiggle room, you can probably go to the HDL risers with no problem; but beware, if you proceed to install them and don't have enough cable, you cannot return them with so much as a tool mark anywhere.... like the bolt heads. The tricky part in this is when the bars are turned lock to lock.... it is on extreme left and right to lock turn that cable problems can arise.... like with the throttle (cables) causing an unintentional rev to the engine, which is unacceptable. Measuring bars is tricky, but here are the OE stock Valk bar measurements. (Interstate are 32.5" wide, others are 33") 1" diameter, 6" rise, 33" width, 14" pullback, 9" center, 3" x 5" clamp area Also, I believe the Interstate throttle cable assembly at the bar comes out the bottom, and for your bike (std or tourer) come out the front. IF there is a small problem with the throttle cables with taller risers, you may be able to get the problem solved by going to interstate throttle hardware at the bar, rather than longer cables.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2013, 06:02:38 AM » |
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''Tim Skelton used my pics and description and hosted them on his site. '' I like the look of those....  Who is tim? N' where can I buy some of those?
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2013, 06:06:01 AM » |
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''Measuring bars is tricky, but here are the OE stock Valk bar measurements. (Interstate are 32.5" wide, others are 33")'' Sure is...  Anyway the best I can tell, with the fat aftermarket K grips. I have an od of 35'' bar grip to grip. The rest,,, I really can't say,,, with any confidence...
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2013, 09:34:13 PM » |
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Just to be clear, the Deuce risers are not a straight bolt up, as are the HDL risers. Cut the bottom tab off, and it is not just longer bolts per the Skelton article. The Deuce are SAE 1/2" -13 threads and bolts, not metric. So you have to either drill out the valk MM holes in the triple tree a few thousandths (no big deal, just a little shaving of metal, and you could always go back to metric hardware with no issue), or find the conversion bolts that are readily available. Like these. http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/riser-mounting-kit-kawasaki/part/BA-7411-01(HDL used to carry them, but I could not find them) IF you already have longer cables with your 35" bars, the deuce may not require longer cables yet. Are your throttle cables already routed inside the triple tree? Which is necessary with the deuce with stock valk bars. What I am saying is that the deuce with your longer bars may need longer cables, but probably not with the HDL/LaMonster risers (at most, you would need only to reroute the throttle cables inside the tree. (And the way to do that is to loosen the riser clamps, slide the bars over to the left, remove the grip and whole throttle cable assembly from the bars and reroute it as a unit.) I have the Deuce on one bike and the HDL/LaMonster on the other. Both are good. I like the LaMonster more for performance twisty riding, and the Deuce more for kicked back on the HWY peg cruising. With my 32.5" IS bars, at full lock on the Deuce bike, my hands are close to my thighs. With your longer bars, the deuce risers could conceivably bring the grips into contact with your thighs. Or not. Of course, all bars can be rotated up and down a bit in the clamp. And I'm 5'9" short and take a 33" sleeve dress shirt. You rarely ride any bike at full lock, but close.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2013, 03:52:51 AM » |
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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2013, 06:02:54 PM » |
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I was in the local Harley store t'other day and noticed that the bars on one of the HD models had a better wrist angle for me than the stock Valk bars. So I went inside and asked how much a set of those would cost. I was surprised when he quoted me $40. Apparently they have a fair number of take-offs and let 'em go cheap. They would be a straight bolt-on.
So, p'raps that would be an option worth investigating--run on by HD, compare some bars on bikes to yours, see if one or t'other would fix your issue then see if they've got some, then hold 'em up on your bike.
Never know, might be an easy, and cheap, fix.
Good luck.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2013, 02:14:48 PM » |
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HDL/LaMonster   A lil more info,,,,,,,,,, on those please??? 
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2013, 03:14:19 PM » |
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I provided you the link to those in my first post.
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2013, 03:51:43 PM » |
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I provided you the link to those in my first post.
So,,,, you did  After lookin,,, closely,,,,, they do, look the same... First glance ,,, no..  Thanks,,,, Proud of em,,,,, ain't they????? $$$$
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2013, 05:07:56 PM » |
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HDL/LaMonster   A lil more info,,,,,,,,,, on those please???  http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=519&str=0&mdl=
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2013, 11:39:12 PM » |
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Proud of em,,,,, ain't they?Huh?? $$$$
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2013, 05:50:22 AM » |
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Is that price (in da link you posted) for 1, errrrr,,,, a pair ?  They are unclear on dat lil detail... 
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2013, 07:49:08 AM » |
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Yes. I don't know anyone that sells risers one at a time. FWIW, these are identical and cost more. http://www.aeromachmfg.com/RISER_SET_4_VTX_Retro_1300_p/am-4120c.htm And if you can wait, HDL will almost certainly be having a Christmas sale - maybe 10 percent. Also, one of my bikes came with the Corbin seats; besides being as hard as stone, I could not get back against the backrest either because of the slow curve in the rear of the seat (no definite pocket, and I was all over the thing). Best looking seat ever made, but sold them anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2013, 01:26:28 PM » |
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Yes. I don't know anyone that sells risers one at a time. FWIW, these are identical and cost more. http://www.aeromachmfg.com/RISER_SET_4_VTX_Retro_1300_p/am-4120c.htm And if you can wait, HDL will almost certainly be having a Christmas sale - maybe 10 percent. Also, one of my bikes came with the Corbin seats; besides being as hard as stone, I could not get back against the backrest either because of the slow curve in the rear of the seat (no definite pocket, and I was all over the thing). Best looking seat ever made, but sold them anyway. Oh,,, I can get back there, but only with my left hand offa da bar.  It's dat close,,,,,, ta bein,,,,,, perfect...  N' hell yes,,,,,,,,,,, I can wait a few weeks.... 
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2013, 07:04:06 PM » |
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Also bought and promptly sold a Corbin seat for mine. Hard as a brick and slid around as well. Don't have a backrest to try and lean against though. When on a long trip I just pack my big bag and strap it to the Sissy Bar and lean on that. Works for me. If you want to wait just a little while you are welcome to climb on mine at the next Florida get together and see what my set up feels like. Am 5'9". Bike is lowered. Am considering moving my risers forward and down a bit. Mine are supposedly 2" taller and 2" pull back with stock bars. Like the look of the LaMonster risers. May go for those.
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2013, 03:30:44 AM » |
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Also bought and promptly sold a Corbin seat for mine. Hard as a brick and slid around as well. Don't have a backrest to try and lean against though. When on a long trip I just pack my big bag and strap it to the Sissy Bar and lean on that. Works for me. If you want to wait just a little while you are welcome to climb on mine at the next Florida get together and see what my set up feels like. Am 5'9". Bike is lowered. Am considering moving my risers forward and down a bit. Mine are supposedly 2" taller and 2" pull back with stock bars. Like the look of the LaMonster risers. May go for those.
Did they work with stock wires, hoses, n' cables?  Thanks, fer the offer, as well.... 
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2013, 05:29:47 AM » |
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I pay about $40 for brand new, take off HD Deuce risers, not the knock offs. $155 for Aeromach? Wow.
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2013, 09:12:53 PM » |
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Yes, they worked.
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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2014, 03:52:01 PM » |
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Got em installed..  Lookin, n' workin, good,,,,,,,,,,, fer me..  Thanks...  
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« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2014, 05:00:16 PM » |
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What risers are those you finally went with?
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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2014, 05:29:40 AM » |
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What risers are those you finally went with?
Have ta ask Pappy,  bought em used,,,, from him.... 
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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2014, 08:20:21 AM » |
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Deuce risers. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2014, 11:38:29 AM » |
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They worked out to be real comfortable, fer me..  Now,,, I can fully use da backrest,, n' have both hands on da bars,, in a relaxed position.  Transformed da bike to something I can now ride farther,,, n' be comfortable doin it... 
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