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Inzane 17
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Question: The Left side of the rear tire is more worn than the right side - why?
Crown of the road.
Left turns are longer than right turns.
Possible wheel bearing issue.
Swingarm out of line.
Both 1 and 2.
Other... please, elaborate.

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Duffy
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« on: July 23, 2009, 07:37:19 PM »

So I noticed (it was pointed out to me  Shocked) that my back tire was toast last weekend. The middle was slick and the left was noticeably more worn than tht right. (I'd post a picture if I could remember my member number! - photostash wants me to log in..)



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Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 08:14:34 PM »

Lucky 13 and I just had this talk today about my car tire ( Cooper Zeon 2XS ) being wore slap out at 7,400 miles. Mine wore much more on the right side and I had a ( L ) bearing that was bad while this tire was on the bike we replaced the bearing alittle over a thousand miles ago and I should have replaced the tire then but did'nt. The bearing was'nt that bad but you could tell it had a " click " to it. I'm not so sure the DynaBeads did'nt factor into this poor tire wear since that was the 7th Cooper Zeon I've had on my bikes and it got the worse mileage of any of them and its the only one that I used DynaBeads to balance  Undecided  Picture of the tire I had mounted today...Fuzion ZRi. I wish I had took a picture of the Cooper today but I did'nt and its at the bike shop that changed it out.

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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2009, 05:12:50 AM »


Bleggh... that shiny motorcycle reminds me that I haven't polished mine up like that since
right before Britman's memorial day ride  Embarrassed  uglystupid2

I rode to the Laurens SCV meeting last week and my buddy Randy pulled up beside me on
his well-polished Harley... he was looking at the bike... I just told him "yeah, that dirt's from
Gettysburg... that dirt's from the Shenandoah Valley... that dirt's from Lenoir..."

-Mike "starter case still rusty, but bike still rides like a Valkyrie"

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solo1
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2009, 05:47:46 AM »

IMHO the causes of uneven tire wear are many more on cars than motorcycles. 

My Miata, for instance ,was wearing the inside of the right rear tire.  The cause? right rear control arms had too much camber.  Camber, toe, caster, and height, all affect tire wear on cars.

IMHO, more wear on the left side of a motorcycle's rear tire is due to the camber of the road.  With the exception of Smokin' Joe and others living in great motorcycling country, we  spend most of our time going straight (vertical) on cambered roads.

Just my .02
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Bob E.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2009, 12:11:23 PM »

I seriously doubt that the left hand turns being longer than right hand turns cause that much extra wear.  The reason is that, as a highway engineer, I have access to alot of mapping software.  So when I first heard this theory, I measured a bunch of turns on several of the projects we are working on.  The difference in length of the turns, when measured along the center of the lanes is less than 6% (usually closer to 3% to 4%) in all but the very sharpest of turns (like intersections, etc.).  And in those cases, the speeds should be low enough that you wouldn't be causing too much wear on the tires anyways.  I get about 10,000 miles out of a set of tires.  Lets assume that half of those miles are straight (or nearly straight) and the other half curves.  I also think that, unless you ride in alot of circles, it is a safe assumption that those miles would be equally split between left and right curves.  So that means about 2500miles in left turns and 2500 miles in right curves.  So assuming a high average of 5% longer for left curves, that means that you have perhaps travelled about 125 miles farther leaned over to the left than you have leaned over to the right.  Are you going to tell me that you can see any real appreciable wear in just 125 miles??  Lets assume I way off, and that number is doubled or tripled...we are still talking about less than 500 miles difference.  I don't buy that theory.

I voted other because I think there are lots of reasons the left side of the tire, for most people, wears faster than the right.  I think the crown has alot to do with it.  But mainly, I think it comes down to people riding more aggressively through left turns because usually the sight distance is better through the turn because you can see across/through the opposite lane.  On right turns, you are looking through the area off of the road.  Sometimes this is obscured by weeds, guiderails, hillsides, trees, etc.  And I also think that alot of people, for whatever reason, are just more comfortable with left turns than right turns.  This could be due to the placement of the controls of the bike.  The throttle and both brakes are on the right.  And it might just be that leaned over into a right turn with these controls on the low side closer to the ground causes some discomfort for some folks.  A few years ago, I concentrated on riding through right turns more aggressively, and I actually found that I evened my tire wear out alot.  Now I am only getting about 7000-8000 miles from a set of tires...worn out all the way across. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2009, 06:20:20 PM »

Bob E.;  I am of the same opinion as you.  I have no scientific or technical data to support it, but have always felt the natural inclination is to be a little more conservative in right turns due the fact the throttle is susceptible to being inadvertently adjusted one way or the other.  I know I'm more aware in right hand curves and more cautious in slow speed turns to the right as compared to the left.   sheets (Highway guy. Career Maintenance).   
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Kingbee
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2009, 07:03:00 AM »

Folks in Englend have the same issue with the right side of their tires.

Before I took a 3,000 mile trip to SD, the left side of my tires were more worn (& a little cupped) on the left side of my 1800 Wing.
I did virtually the entire trip in the left lane of the interstate.  When I got home, the right side of the tires were worn & a bit cupped (typical 1800 Wing) just like the left side was before I started.

The was proof to me that it's the crown of the road.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2009, 04:42:29 PM »

I really haven't found any of my tires to wear more on one side than the other.  The old Pan Head will cup them a little, but that frame has had a really hard life.
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