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« on: February 05, 2014, 07:43:44 AM » |
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I just finished doing my rear end maintenance (1st time) this weekend. Everything went well, the splines looked good and had plenty of grease on it even before I pulled the tire out. Cleaned out everything, put new O-rings, used green grease and GD-525 to grease all the parts.
The only problem I had was the part where I had to tighten the 4 final drive bolts with my torque wrench to 47 lbs/ft. I was able to get the 2 bolts on the outside torqued to the right specifications. However the 2 inside ones (facing the rear tire) was a royal PITA. No matter how hard or which direction I tried, I had problems fitting my torque wrench in there. Is there a trick I am missing over here to get these 2 bolts tightened?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2014, 07:47:47 AM » |
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Try using a 3/8" torque wrench if you are not already. The head is a little smaller. Also try different length extensions, from a shorty to a 3". It is tight but I am able to get the socket squarely on the nut. If that fails, try a 3/8" universal but that can get tricky. I also use a 6 point socket to protect the nut. Do not forget the anti-seize.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 07:55:39 AM » |
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Also the right side shock should NOT be attached to the final drive while you are tightening these bolts. That makes it a bit easier to get to the bolts
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2014, 08:10:34 AM » |
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I did have my shocks off when I was tightening the bolts. I guess I'm going to have to buy another 3/8" torque wrench with a smaller head. Both the torque wrenches I have right now (3/8" and 1/2") are the craftsman clicker ones and have a slightly larger head.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2014, 08:14:30 AM » |
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Can't get the torque wrench in that cramped space ? No problem. Try to 'calibrate' your elbow. Stick a bolt and nut in your vise and tighten it to a certain setting. Then just use a hand wrench and tighten it until it just wants to move. Try that at various torque settings and pretty soon you'll get pretty close. With 'tonnages' approaching what those rear drive fasteners need [45#] then you'll probably need to 'double-up' two wrenches [ in other words, box end of first wrench on fastener and the box end of a second wrench to the open end of the first wrench.].
Not all fasteners need a 'torque'. In 5+ decades of this stuff I've watched too many folks screw things up by not knowing how to properly use a torque wrench. I'm not trying to make any insinuations at all, just saying many fasteners don't really need exact settings. The main purpose in tightening more than one fastener is consistency.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2014, 08:23:49 AM » |
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I did have my shocks off when I was tightening the bolts. I guess I'm going to have to buy another 3/8" torque wrench with a smaller head. Both the torque wrenches I have right now (3/8" and 1/2") are the craftsman clicker ones and have a slightly larger head.
No deep sockets or extensions ? |
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2014, 08:31:15 AM » |
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I did have my shocks off when I was tightening the bolts. I guess I'm going to have to buy another 3/8" torque wrench with a smaller head. Both the torque wrenches I have right now (3/8" and 1/2") are the craftsman clicker ones and have a slightly larger head.
No deep sockets or extensions ? I did eventually use an extension on the bolts, but I just don't feel that comfortable when using an extension with the torque wrench. |
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2014, 09:11:58 AM » |
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One Word: Wobble extensions
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2014, 09:37:56 AM » |
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One Word: Wobble extensions
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 09:49:40 AM » |
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One Word: Wobble extensions
Hay Jimmyt I know it's 2 words, just wanted to see if some one would call me on it. Atta boy, Jimmy! |
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2014, 10:16:22 AM » |
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One Word: Wobble extensions
Hay Jimmyt I know it's 2 words, just wanted to see if some one would call me on it. Atta boy, Jimmy! Maybe its two words, but, one tool. Can't ever have too many tools ! |
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2014, 10:33:20 AM » |
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One Word: Wobble extensions
Got a really nice selection in a set from H/F. 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 inch and different lengths. I know they were less than a 20 dollar bill. You think those 4 bolts were fun-wait til your alt takes a dump and you have to R & R it. RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2014, 01:32:41 PM » |
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Can't get the torque wrench in that cramped space ? No problem. Try to 'calibrate' your elbow. Stick a bolt and nut in your vise and tighten it to a certain setting. Then just use a hand wrench and tighten it until it just wants to move. Try that at various torque settings and pretty soon you'll get pretty close.
I also use a calibrated elbow, but with a slightly different method. When I torque the nuts that my click-style torque wrench will fit on, instead of pulling the torque wrench at the handle, I pull it at a distance from the head equal to the length of the wrench I need to use to get the back nuts, then pull with the same force on the wrench. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 04:15:13 PM » |
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I usually just tighten them until they break, then back them off 1/2 a turn.  |
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 04:35:41 PM » |
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When I was a kid in the shop my grandfather would holler over, is it tight ? Yes, grandpa its tight. Well, give it another turn !
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 05:50:31 AM » |
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If all else fails , you can borrow my torque multiplier to get them tight. I have a four to one , and use to work with a twenty to one. Mack truck pinion nut crush spacer was ( if I remember) 2100 pounds torque.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 06:59:34 AM » |
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We don't need no stinkin' torque multiplier!  |
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2014, 08:22:56 AM » |
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Ended up getting the 9-piece wobble extensions from HF. They were on sale for 13.99 and I had an additional 25% off coupon. Thanks everybody for your input. Will give this another go when I change out my rear tire in about 5-6k miles. Now, if only I could get rid of the stupid wrinkles on the chrome of my alternator cover. Must have accidentally dropped some fuel on it when I was taking my gas tank off this weekend.   |
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2014, 09:43:45 AM » |
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Dont get all wrapped around the axle on this torque setting for the final drive mounts. if you cant get a good torque wrench in there on that last bolt, just get a shorty (6"-8" or so) box wrench and tighten that thing as hard as possible......until you cant pull anymore and then a little more. That will be close enough seeing as you have the others right anyways.
The worst thing in the world is a cheap click type torque wrench. If you are a penny pincher like me and want to save money then buy a brand name bar type, they are inexpensive and more trustworthy than a fancy looking cheap dial/click type
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