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Author Topic: inner tubes for tires OK or Not OK?  (Read 1166 times)
Ben1704
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« on: February 08, 2014, 07:04:10 AM »


Ok so I got a electrical staple in the rear tire.  Local shop says they will not put an inner tube on a tubles s rim for safety reasons.  I have had an inner tube on my Honda Shadow Saber C2 for 3 or 4 year after valve stem disintegrated.  It's performed flawlessly for more than 15 thousand miles so far.

What do you think? (your experience)
What brand is best?
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Bone
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 07:14:00 AM »

I have not tried a tube so I asked Google. Give it a try a lot of opinions to read.
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Skinhead
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 07:26:16 AM »


Ok so I got a electrical staple in the rear tire.  Local shop says they will not put an inner tube on a tubles s rim for safety reasons.  I have had an inner tube on my Honda Shadow Saber C2 for 3 or 4 year after valve stem disintegrated.  It's performed flawlessly for more than 15 thousand miles so far.

What do you think? (your experience)
What brand is best?


I'm certainly not an expert, I did work in a tire shop for a few years.  My advice is to make sure if it is a radial tire, use a radial tube, likewise if it is bias ply.  The whole tire industry has gone nuts due to liability suits and will not repair anything anymore. 

I can only say that motorcycle and car tires have had tubes for years, nothing is totally safe, but I feel the risk would be low. 

It would also help to apply a patch to the inside of the tire before installing the tube.
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old2soon
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 08:36:22 AM »

Radial tube for radial tire bias tube for bias tire. One is not compatible with the other. Don't try cross breeding. Or take tire off yourself and patch NOT PLUG from inside. Good luck with your tire how ever you do it. RIDE SAFE.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 08:54:20 AM »

If you are going to patch a tubeless tire on the inside, a tube is not required.

Just run it like it is.

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2014, 08:58:44 AM »

Or take tire off yourself and patch NOT PLUG from inside.

^^^    +1

I've put an internal patch on multiple car & truck tires.  This is the BEST way to permanently patch a tubeless tire, but it does take a bit more work.  

I've also used the same type patches to patch bicycle and dirt-bike tubes MANY MANY times.  

Just make sure you have a smooth & clean area where the patch is going.  
I use a pneumatic sander to smooth out the patch area if the inside of the tire carcass has any ridges/grooves.  

In fact, I only use plugs in an emergency.  Which has been all of one time on a tubeless bike tire... it did work fine and held for 4K miles.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2014, 11:19:50 AM »

When I was motocrossing in Japan I had 2 spare sets of wheels with tires mounted. They were tube type tires and in the evening after racing all day repairs were being made to race the next day-I CAN NOT remember a race where I did not have to repair a tire or 3. That rubber rim protector some times had to be replaced also. I have patched tubeless M/C tires and reinstalled on the bike and gotten all the miles off the tire. Cleaning of the surface the patch adheres to and a good quality adhesive are of equal importance. BUT I will say this-it is up to the individual owner what path-repair or replace-he chooses to travel. Done correctly repairs are quite acceptable. RIDE SAFE.
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98valk
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2014, 12:58:39 PM »

find another shop quick
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Bugslayer
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2014, 02:40:33 PM »

If it was just a electrical staple, I'd patch it and ride it.
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sandy
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2014, 08:24:10 PM »

Get a Stop n Go tire plug kit. I used one on my Wing rear tire. Towed my tent trailer to Yellowstone and back and never lost air or had a problem. Finally wore out the tire with the plug still in.
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Ben1704
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2014, 08:27:50 AM »

I am unable after a week of looking to find an inner tube with a 90 degree valve that will fit a 180/70 R16 tire.  Any one ever locate one?
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rhinor61
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2014, 09:27:24 AM »

On the inner tube..

I got a screw with less than 500 miles on a new tire.
The tire shop located a bridgestone radial tire tube with a short valve stem that did work. Never could find a 90 degree tube.
Kind of a pain to put air in while out on the road, but I ran it for 9k and replaced the front tire
when the rear needed replacing.

The reason there are radial tube is the heat caused vs using spoked wheels that can release the
gases/heat from tire building up as you ride..
was it BS, I dont know, but remember there is no spare on board and a flat tire front or rear is not  a good thing to have EVER..

John
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