InZane XV... preliminary info

[f6gal]

Remember the word preliminary!  

I hope this doesn't bite me us the butt, but I thought we would try a new tactic and keep everyone updated on IZXV progress as we go.  This way at least y'all know we're not just sitting around on our hands.  

Probable dates: June 8-12 (Early Bird Night June 7)
Probable location:  Black Hills area of SD

We are negotiating with a site in the Black Hills area, there are a few areas of contention.  For example, they won't let us do our early bird cook-out ourselves.  If it's on site, they have to host it, which they are willing to do, but at 4 times the cost that we normally put in to it.  There are also some issues for what they want to charge for function space.  Hopefully, we can work it all out.  If our negotiations fall flat, Asheville is more than happy to have us back.

.UPDATE!!
The dates and location are secured:
June 8-12. 2015... Early Bird Festivities, Sunday June 7
Spearfish, SD

For tax reasons, registration will not be open until the first of the year.  If we can find a way around the tax issue, we will open sooner.  

[HayHauler]

Thanks Connie!!   Looking forward to it!!

Hope you guys get all the kinks worked out. 

Hay
Jimmyt

[ptgb]

South Dakota =  

Back in Asheville =  

I don't think we could lose either way on this one!

With going to South Dakota... on my states ridden map, I still need North Dakota. Guess if I'm so close I'll have to schlep on up there.

p.s. - I really don't think the early bird cook-out should be a deal breaker.... bet there is a park with a nice pavilion nearby. Rent the grills and such if needed.

 

[f6gal]

South Dakota =  

Back in Asheville =  

I don't think we could lose either way on this one!

With South Dakota, on my states ridden map, I still need North Dakota. Guess if I'm so close I'll have to schlep on up there.

LOL... I'll have to schlep over to Idaho!!

[R J]

South Dakota =  

Back in Asheville =  

I don't think we could lose either way on this one!

With South Dakota, on my states ridden map, I still need North Dakota. Guess if I'm so close I'll have to schlep on up there.

LOL... I'll have to schlep over to Idaho!!

Dat be a little bit furdder over to Idaho than it is up to North Dakota.

[Xtracho]

Regardless of the location, thanks for cluing us all in. Helps me immensely so I can jiggle around my hitches here on the boat and make the trip next year. 

[santa]

GREAT, now that's the way to do things. Thank you. I know it will work out

Santa

[John Schmidt]

Connie, sounds like the SD site may be a bit costly for all, causing you "planners" to have to recoup some costs in another manner; registration for both the members and any vendors that may show up. Personally, I wouldn't spend a lot of time with those folks if they can't bend a little. I'm certain using Asheville a second time would be more than welcome by the majority of members, I know I'm fine with it. For me, the shortest distance to Rapid City, SD is a good 2k miles so may be out of the question.

Also, for me personally I would have to arrange for someone to be with my wife for at least two weeks, possibly longer. That would pretty much leave me out but....who knows what will happen between now and then. Those are just my thoughts on what is known at this point.

[Oss]

Asheville area was pretty nice and a week earlier in June..........

Sweet

Still have a whole bunch of the area left to explore

Ditto for the Black Hills area

Nice riding, just 1750 miles each way
and having to pass by Chicago again too   

means 6 days of travel for 4 or 5 there

But I have done it before and had a great time

Whatever it is I am sure we will have a wonderful group of folks in attendance

[f6gal]

Connie, sounds like the SD site may be a bit costly for all, causing you "planners" to have to recoup some costs in another manner; registration for both the members and any vendors that may show up. Personally, I wouldn't spend a lot of time with those folks if they can't bend a little. I'm certain using Asheville a second time would be more than welcome by the majority of members, I know I'm fine with it. For me, the shortest distance to Rapid City, SD is a good 2k miles so may be out of the question.

Also, for me personally I would have to arrange for someone to be with my wife for at least two weeks, possibly longer. That would pretty much leave me out but....who knows what will happen between now and then. Those are just my thoughts on what is known at this point.

Unfortunately, without exception, the second year at any location has had a drastic fall in attendance.  The fall in attendance may carry a higher price tag than the Black Hills function space charges.  

[f6gal]

Asheville area was pretty nice and a week earlier in June..........

Actually, the same week in June (2nd week).

[f6gal]

p.s. - I really don't think the early bird cook-out should be a deal breaker.... bet there is a park with a nice pavilion nearby. Rent the grills and such if needed.

We are checking into that very idea, I was a bit leery about having folks jump back on their bikes after their travels.  But, hopefully, we can find a park within a few miles.

[Clark]

the black hills are AWESOME.. annnnd I will always have room for you and Psycho, Connie should you decide to check idaho offn yer list

[Tailgate Tommy]

Black Hills is a great area!!

[Jess from VA]

Regarding the self-help cookout (or anything else of this nature), if it is (more) money they want, you can only negotiate.

But if liability concerns (and insurance) is the reason they want to take ownership/control of any/all events on their property, you may be able to offer them a well drafted waiver of liability holding them (their company, corporation, stockholders, and all heirs, assigns, etc) harmless for any injuries or damages resulting from running our own events.  I can help with this, if liability is their concern.

Of course there is an issue of agency and whether VRCC The Club has actual authority to act in such a way as to waive liability for all participants who show up to an Inzane function..... but you do not bring this up, let them figure it out. 

Additionally, they could always reserve the right to place an employee at any event we run to provide input on any safety issues that might bother them.

[T.P.]

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[Punisher]

Unfortunately, without exception, the second year at any location has had a drastic fall in attendance.  The fall in attendance may carry a higher price tag than the Black Hills function space charges.  

That to me means that Asheville should be off the table.   If the place in SD doesn't play ball then try some other place in SD or we can always go somewhere else.   Places in North GA or WV or PA would be great.    If you need to look further out West, Montana isn't that far from the Black Hills area.

I would even be happy with the Johnson City TN area.   It was a great location and been a few years since we've been there.

Where ever we end up we'll have a good time.

[Grumpy]

At my age Sd is a little to far for me to ride, only option would be to trailer there, and if I have to drag the toy hauler 2000 miles one way, I would probably find a camp site, rather than ground zero, just economics. Old and on fixed income. Ashville is in riding range, or Johnson city was nice also.

[T-Bird]

What Punisher said
My only question is...how many active members are a days ride to SD?
I know it will be a hard 3 day ride for me, bothways.

[Rams]

Regardless of where it's held, I'll do my best to be there and want the staff to know that I fully support and appreciate this approach to InZane planning.    
Personally, I'd rather go back to NC, SC, NE GA, SE TN, Eastern KY but, that's just me.      Heck, I'd even go to Topeka, KS if it were held there.   

 Thanks for providing the info.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

What Punisher said
My only question is...how many active members are a days ride to SD?
I know it will be a hard 3 day ride for me, bothways.

Hopefully we can get everyone west of the Mississippi excited about it! I know I am. This will be my first shot at it, just can't swing enough time off to go east and back. I understand it's a long way for you guys back there but I hope to meet all of you there

[flcjr]

What Punisher said
My only question is...how many active members are a days ride to SD?
I know it will be a hard 3 day ride for me, bothways.

Myself and the only other member I know of in this part of MT  would go if in SD. Sturgis area is an easy day ride for us. I have only been around here since 2009 but haven't made it to an inzane yet for the same reasons you mention. Probaly lots more members in the east and the ones who put it together seem to be from over that direction so I get it.

I bet the cost to put this on could be reduced a bunch if was moved further west into WY. Near Gillitte or Sheridan or Buffalo. Those areas aren't as touristy and would love our money be spent in Their towns.
The black hills would be ridden thru for most going and coming so wouldn't lose out for seeing that as well. The big horns and the wind river canyon are some of the best riding in my opinion. I'm sure lots of fun will be had no matter where it is. 

[T-Bird]

What Punisher said
My only question is...how many active members are a days ride to SD?
I know it will be a hard 3 day ride for me, bothways.

Hopefully we can get everyone west of the Mississippi excited about it! I know I am. This will be my first shot at it, just can't swing enough time off to go east and back. I understand it's a long way for you guys back there but I hope to meet all of you there

That is what I "Do" look forward to...meeting some of the west coast members I have not had the chance of meeting before.  Since I am retired I will be there. It's all about the ride for me, but  for others it is just not in the cards to go to it with just a weeks vacation time.

[T.P.]

What Punisher said
My only question is...how many active members are a days ride to SD?
I know it will be a hard 3 day ride for me, bothways.

Myself and the only other member I know of in this part of MT  would go if in SD. Sturgis area is an easy day ride for us. I have only been around here since 2009 but haven't made it to an inzane yet for the same reasons you mention. Probaly lots more members in the east and the ones who put it together seem to be from over that direction so I get it.

I bet the cost to put this on could be reduced a bunch if was moved further west into WY. Near Gillitte or Sheridan or Buffalo. Those areas aren't as touristy and would love our money be spent in Their towns.
The black hills would be ridden thru for most going and coming so wouldn't lose out for seeing that as well. The big horns and the wind river canyon are some of the best riding in my opinion. I'm sure lots of fun will be had no matter where it is.  

All of the VRCC officers are based way West of the Mississippi
Only 3 out of the 14 past Inzane's have been West of the Mississippi
MRS.T.P. and I are 600 miles to the East

[santa]

It was East now it is going West so all those California folk that have been asking Inzane to come west here it is, jump in and be a participant.

Santa

[santa]

The trip out and back would be the high point of the whole thing.

Santa

[fudgie]

and having to pass by Chicago again too   

I can get you around a easier faster way. I havent been thru chicago on my way to SD in 4+ yrs now. 

[fudgie]

Numerous big hotels within 30 miles of the Hills. Someone should be able to host a vendor are at a decent price.

Sounds like a good time will be had by all. 

[Disco]

My only question is...how many active members are a days ride to SD?

Um, that 44,783 number below proves I am!   

Thanks, staff!  Either SD or NC for a repeat suits me just fine.  In fact, how 'bout SD for XV and NC for XVI?  OK, Rockies for XVI would be great, too.   

Hmmm, Rockies, Smokies, Rockies, Smokies...  Has a nice ring to it.   

[RainMaker]

Same distance either way.  Both are superb choices - and the date in June makes it available again for my vacation planning.  The dates are very much appreciated.  Hope it is the Black Hills, in either SD or Wyoming.

[ksmith50229]

we will try to get there were ever it is. as long as there is a 2 lane to get there we are good .

[Hoser]

I like it, love the black hills.  A long day ride or an easy two day for me from Topeka.  Gives the western folk a chance at it too. Wyoming is close, too.  A little black hills action about  eight years ago, my first venture into the Black Hills. Were you there that year Oss?
 Hoser


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[Hooter]

and having to pass by Chicago again too   

I can get you around a easier faster way. I havent been thru chicago on my way to SD in 4+ yrs now. 

I'd be up for a short cut around Chi - Town. Might be able to make a pack of us meeting some place a touch east and go from there IF this goes west?

[fudgie]

and having to pass by Chicago again too   

I can get you around a easier faster way. I havent been thru chicago on my way to SD in 4+ yrs now. 

I'd be up for a short cut around Chi - Town. Might be able to make a pack of us meeting some place a touch east and go from there IF this goes west?

prob not much of a option since u live in sw mich. Itake us 24 to peoria ill then hit the interstate.

[ChromeDome]

Thanks for the update Connie. I'll be there where ever it is. 

[James III]

  SD sounds good! If I'm going that far then Alaska is on the schedule!
See ya down the road!

James

[G-Man]

Asheville area was pretty nice and a week earlier in June..........

Sweet

Still have a whole bunch of the area left to explore

Ditto for the Black Hills area

Nice riding, just 1750 miles each way
and having to pass by Chicago again too   

means 6 days of travel for 4 or 5 there

But I have done it before and had a great time

Whatever it is I am sure we will have a wonderful group of folks in attendance

Trailer!

[musclehead]

Connie, sounds like the SD site may be a bit costly for all, causing you "planners" to have to recoup some costs in another manner; registration for both the members and any vendors that may show up. Personally, I wouldn't spend a lot of time with those folks if they can't bend a little. I'm certain using Asheville a second time would be more than welcome by the majority of members, I know I'm fine with it. For me, the shortest distance to Rapid City, SD is a good 2k miles so may be out of the question.

Also, for me personally I would have to arrange for someone to be with my wife for at least two weeks, possibly longer. That would pretty much leave me out but....who knows what will happen between now and then. Those are just my thoughts on what is known at this point.

one time I had to drive from Brandon FL to Rapid city SD in two days and a few hours (dang Tropicana kept me at the dock for 12 hours!  )

[Bighead]

Asheville area was pretty nice and a week earlier in June..........

Sweet

Still have a whole bunch of the area left to explore

Ditto for the Black Hills area

Nice riding, just 1750 miles each way
and having to pass by Chicago again too   

means 6 days of travel for 4 or 5 there

But I have done it before and had a great time

Whatever it is I am sure we will have a wonderful group of folks in attendance

Trailer!

Blastphimy 
Had a sticker on my helmet once that said if you see this bike on a trailer dial 911 because it has been stolen
I have never been to an Inzane and would love to go but SD would definitely be out for me. Not that I wouldn't love to go but can't get the time needed to travel to and from

[Gryphon Rider]

Had a sticker on my helmet once that said if you see this bike on a trailer dial 911 because it has been stolen

You think if they stole your bike they'd leave your helmet sitting on the seat?