So, I'm sitting at a light........

[G-Man]

on my beautiful BLACK standard when a brand new beautiful BLACK Corvette pulls up next to me.  I nod at the driver, he nods back, and without missing a beat he says..........

"THE BLACK ONES ARE THE FASTEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

The light changes, we both took off like being shot out of a canon and I smiled the whole way home.

I guess it's true. 

[Black Dog]

  TRUTH 

Black Dog

[RTaz]

True in all things automotive....I think...(but I do own two of those two-tones too)

[Spirited-6]

on my beautiful BLACK standard when a brand new beautiful BLACK Corvette pulls up next to me.  I nod at the driver, he nods back, and without missing a beat he says..........

"THE BLACK ONES ARE THE FASTEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

The light changes, we both took off like being shot out of a canon and I smiled the whole way home.

I guess it's true. 

SO, who won ? You did not say.

[ChromeDome]

on my beautiful BLACK standard when a brand new beautiful BLACK Corvette pulls up next to me.  I nod at the driver, he nods back, and without missing a beat he says..........

"THE BLACK ONES ARE THE FASTEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

The light changes, we both took off like being shot out of a canon and I smiled the whole way home.

I guess it's true. 

But only when no one else is around!

[robin]

I have to disagree with ya G-Man the elusive Black and Orange are the ones you have to look out for

[ricoman]

As we age, black becomes a more easily discerned color than others, thus giving the false impression of "faster".
In reality yellow and ivory cream is the quickest!!

[Whistler]

You know I hate to start a new controverse, but I believe, and I think Willow will back me up on this, but the rare Blue with White stripes, are the fastest. That's why they are so rare!! Not everyone can handle one!!  JDW

[F6CTrider]

Put me on the black is fastest side of this discussion.   
An important side note: Mix a touch of Jade in with the black and they are faster still!
It has some thing to do with light waves, heat transfer, air density, and the cool factor.  You know....all that tech stuff.

[Willow]

You know I hate to start a new controverse, but I believe, and I think Willow will back me up on this, but the rare Blue with White stripes, are the fastest. That's why they are so rare!! Not everyone can handle one!!  JDW

Between you and me, you're quite right.  We don't talk about it around the plain blacks though because we feel it's impolite to rub it in on those who either couldn't afford or were too cheap to pay for color.

[Whistler]

You know I hate to start a new controverse, but I believe, and I think Willow will back me up on this, but the rare Blue with White stripes, are the fastest. That's why they are so rare!! Not everyone can handle one!!  JDW

Between you and me, you're quite right.  We don't talk about it around the plain blacks though because we feel it's impolite to rub it in on those who either couldn't afford or were too cheap to pay for color.

Point noted being a fairly newbie I am still learning protocol, thanks for the heads up! Hope I didn't depress to many of them!  JDW

[Michael K (Az.)]

Remember, black denotes the absence of color therefore, wait!,,,, I can't go on!

[BonS]

I like two-tones the best: Black and Chrome.

[Snowflake]

Once you go Black...you'll never go back!!! 

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Some valks and cages of varying colors are for unknown reasons faster than others of the same ilk. No one know why, they just are. The added speed and acceleration tends to cause the paint to burn in the atmosphere. This eventually causes the fastest ones to turn black.


A day in the mind of Frye is sometimes a scary place.

[Stanley Steamer]

the Forest Green and Silver are the fastest....

[f6john]

Remember, black denotes the absence of color therefore, wait!,,,, I can't go on!

Somebody double check this but I believe that I was taught White is the absence of all color and black is the presence of all colors. I happen to have a black Valk with a little quicksilver thrown in.

[Jabba]

I don't know about fastest... but ALL those black ones look the same.

They look BIGGER... but they are still the same.



Jabba

[sheets]

I think the B-1-B, and the B-2 are -Black-, ain't they?   

[Brad]

Once you go Black...you'll never go back!!! 

Are all valks the same size then? 

[waterboybpf]

Remember, black denotes the absence of color therefore, wait!,,,, I can't go on!

Somebody double check this but I believe that I was taught White is the absence of all color and black is the presence of all colors. I happen to have a black Valk with a little quicksilver thrown in.

it's actually the other way around.  white is the presence of all colors.

[Gear Jammer]

I don't know about fastest... but ALL those black ones look the same.

They look BIGGER...


Jabba

SIZE MATTERS !!    Especially when it comes to the stinger !   

[Doc Moose]

Wasn't there an explanation for why Black was fastest a few years back?

Seems it had to do with Black being "anti color" and was synonomous  with "anti gravity", therefore making it faster than the speed of light as all light is absorbed by it.....

I dunno, just a theory put forth by one of the "Einsteins" of the VRCC..... 

I put it up there with the "Flat Earth Society". JMHO. 

[Jabba]

I love you guy s for the content of your character rather than the color of your motorcycle.  Even  though I am possessed of thebeautiful but somewhat elusive blue/pearl valk.  I know ONE other VRCC member with one.  Willow.  How many Black ones are there?  10,000?

Jabba

[Tropic traveler]

Sorry guys, but Red & White will win the fight!

[Huey]

Black and Red no one even said anything about the black and reds because they know they are the fastest!!!! LOL
(99) Interstate Black and red or Red and Black doesn't matter. LOL  Huey

[R J]

I had my Chevy Trike out last week limbering up it's joints so to speak.

This one:



A Boss Hoss Trike pulled up in the lane next to me and was a goosing the RPM's so to speak.  

I looked around and low & behold there set an unmarked in the lane to my right headed to our left.   I blipped the throttle a couple of times, light changed, Boss Hoss was squalling tires and puttin up a nice smoke screen.

I gave the unmarked a chance to go & them followed him down the street & out into the new development housing.  It took 4 units to get him slowed down and arrested.   He tried to run, 1 radar car clocked him in the triple digits, inside the city limits.   He unknowingly entered a dead end street, and gave up when he didn't have anywhere else to go.

Turned out the Trike had been stolen from the Wally World parking lot about 8 or 9 blocks from the traffic control device...

I tried running Lamont's Boss Hoss on the I-state at InZane 3, I think it was. we blipped en for short spurts.   I was no competition to his bike......   I weight too much to run a Boss Hoss  

[Jabba]

In Sturgis '04 I ran one day, all day with a guy with a 403 Boss Hoss.  It had a blower, AND NOS.  That guy could squall his tire at 60 MPH!!  It was a FLAT OUT ROCKET.  But... he only got 10 MPG.  So he was limited to 120 miles on a 12 gallon tank.  At least I wsn't the ONLY one.


There was s guy in that group on a Valk too, and he was all embarassed that he didn't have a HD. 

I embarassed those HD's a lot that couple days.

Jabba

[MAD6Gun]

Mine used to be black,does that count. Now it is Blue and Silver. But not Honda blue. Mine is 04 Pontiac GTO Impulse Blue. Now the GTO being the FIRST muscle car. That would make my Blue and Silver Valkyrie the fastest. What do you think?

[f6john]

Mine used to be black,does that count. Now it is Blue and Silver. But not Honda blue. Mine is 04 Pontiac GTO Impulse Blue. Now the GTO being the FIRST muscle car. That would make my Blue and Silver Valkyrie the fastest. What do you think?

Could be right up until you hear a little blower whine , then I'm not so sure!

[Jabba]

I say painting your boring Valk makes you smarter, and cooler than most.  Not to mention more attractive to the fairer sex, and ...  ah hell.  It's a cool Valk.  They ALL are after all.

I almost bought a black one.  I was ready to, but found mine cheaper on e-bay.  The rest is history.

Jabba

[Andy]

Mine used to be black,does that count. Now it is Blue and Silver. But not Honda blue. Mine is 04 Pontiac GTO Impulse Blue. Now the GTO being the FIRST muscle car. That would make my Blue and Silver Valkyrie the fastest. What do you think?

Ahem, excuse me, but the Hemi was in production long before the GTO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Hemi_engine
So any vehicle with the original Hemi would have been deemed a muscle car I believe.

[X Ring]

Sorry guys, but Red & White will win the fight!

I most heartily agree.

[Valker]

Mine used to be black,does that count. Now it is Blue and Silver. But not Honda blue. Mine is 04 Pontiac GTO Impulse Blue. Now the GTO being the FIRST muscle car. That would make my Blue and Silver Valkyrie the fastest. What do you think?

Ahem, excuse me, but the Hemi was in production long before the GTO. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Hemi_engine
So any vehicle with the original Hemi would have been deemed a muscle car I believe.

I'd vote this one as an original muscle car, but others would prefer a Bugatti

[f6john]

The GTO wasn't the first car with muscle, it was the first muscle car. Particulary the 64 as in light weight, good hp and torque. Car makers always allowed a good idea to get bigger and heavier. There were other cars with muscle in 64 but no hemi Darts, big block Chevelles, or cobra jet Mustangs. I remember, I was there and I was a car nut even then.

[Valker]

Are you counting the 63 Vette with the 327/375hp fuel injection? I was there too (except mine was a 64 coupe, a 65 roadster with the 327/365 hp, and a 66 GTO convertible with the 389 & 4 speed Hurst.

[f6john]

Are you counting the 63 Vette with the 327/375hp fuel injection? I was there too (except mine was a 64 coupe, a 65 roadster with the 327/365 hp, and a 66 GTO convertible with the 389 & 4 speed Hurst.

I guess it's different for everyone, I would not count the Vette as a muscle car. Fast, yes sexy, yes advanced technology, yes cool, yes expensive, yes. I suppose I'm saying it was in a class by itself. It's like the new supercharged Vette. It and a SRT-8 Challenger are not in the same class but I would look at the Challenger as a late model muscle car. My first car was a 64 Barracuda ( still have it) but my second car was a 67 GTO Ram Air 1 car (wish I still had it).

[MAD6Gun]

Andy you are correct. Anything with a Hemi would have had muscle. BUT the orginal muscle car was an intermeadiate body car with a more powerful and bigger engine. In 1964 GM had a rule. No car could have an engine bigger than 10% of its weight. The Lamans at the time weighed 3500 pounds. Thus no engine bigger than a 350. Pontiac didnt make a 350 then, so the 326 was it. John Delorean decided to take a 389 tri-power out of a Catalina and put it in a Lemans and called it the GTO. Thus the muscle car era had begun. Most of the bigger engines were in much larger cars, like the 421 catalina's, 409 Impala's,413 Dodges and the 427 Fords as well as many others. A lot of cars prior to 64 could have been called muscle cars I suppose but that destinction goes to the GTO.......P.S. Although the Vette had muscle it was considered a Sports Car.

[Rocketman]

I think the B-1-B, and the B-2 are -Black-, ain't they?   

You can tell by looking at the B-2 that it was built for speed...
Oh, wait.  That was the XB-70 Valkyrie.  And it was most definitely NOT black.

[G-Man]

I'd vote this one as an original muscle car, but others would prefer a Bugatti
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Forget about muscle car......The 36 Cord is a work of art!  Nothing compares to it's absolute beauty in my book!