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« on: July 23, 2014, 03:18:23 PM » |
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OK... So I am ready to buy my replacement wheels. My question is: Are the wheels compatible across the different Valks? I have a 2000 Standard (at least I think that's what it is... Windshield, hard (leather-like) bags, no fairing I am looking to buy a set from a 2000 Interstate. I want to make sure I can just put my rotors on and mount them. Also, should I take this opportunity to put in new bearings? If so, what do we recommend? 
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2014, 04:42:26 PM » |
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'97s have smaller wheel bearings than other yrs. I also tend to remember some talk that some I/S wheels are slightly wider, maybe somebody will chime in about that.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2014, 05:08:21 PM » |
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Rotors in 2000 have the same part number for both STD and Interstate...
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2014, 06:16:20 PM » |
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It was the front wheel of the 97' (and possible other years) that had a different size bearing.
If I remember correctly on the rear rim, as long as you keep the year of the rim and rotor the same, you have no problem.
I think it was also in 2000 that they started to clear coat the rims.
I'll look for the notes I have on rims, and edit this post or post another.
edit: here is what I saved from other posts, not just one.
Note: read the whole info below before applying it. It should make sense after you have read it all.
Standard 1997 - 1999 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MT8-000 Standard 2000 - 2003 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MBY-671
Tourer 1997 - 1999 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MT8-000 Tourer 2000 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MBY-671
Interstate 1999 - 2001 Rear Brake Rotor is 43251-MBY-671
I/S wheels won't work unless ya take the disc and the caliper with it.
The wheels are all interchangeable. Differences: In 2000 and later, the rotor was different and the alignment with the caliper was off a bit. In 2001, all the wheels were polished and the area behind the rotors were just a cast surface. If you use your old rotor on the new wheel, you'll be fine. If your bike is a '97-'99, use the old style rotor and bolts. '00-'03, use the new style.
But the old wheel has a 1J in front of the wheel size part# located on the rough casting of rotor side, where as the newer wheels have a 2J to start. Just a note! a ST1300 rotor will fit the old wheel also. 99 Int has the new wheel.
I'm pretty sure no matter what year wheel! if you have the oem rotor for the wheel it will fit fine on any!
No. The rotor has to match the year of the bike. For example, if you try to install an '01 wheel on a '97 with the '01 rotor, you will have to shim the rotor so it won't hit the caliper mount. If you install a '97 rotor on the '01 wheel, you won't have a problem.
The wheel rims are all the same. THE rotor year must match the year of the bike for the rear wheel.
Read Sandy's post above. The match of bike year to wheel year isn't important, the bike year to rotor year is.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2014, 07:22:11 PM » |
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The wheel rims are all the same. THE rotor year must match the year of the bike for the rear wheel.
Read Sandy's post above. The match of bike year to wheel year isn't important, the bike year to rotor year is.
Sorry, I think that is wrong. As long as you match the year range of the rear wheel with the same year range rear rotor it will fit. Check the picture and notice the '2 J' cast into the rim just inside the rotor cavity. 97-99 wheels should have a '1 J' there. 99-2003 wheels should have a 2 J there. I think 99 was a changeover year. All '1 J' wheels take the early rotor, all '2 J' wheels take the later rotor. The main difference is the area of the wheel that the rotor is bolted to. 97 to 99 Valks came with a '1 J' wheel. 2000 to 2003 came with a '2 J' wheel whether it is polished and clear coated or not. Polished and clear coated wheels came into play from 2001 and on depending on the model of the Valk. Any year brake caliper and mount will fit without a problem. I have done some research on this and believe that this is correct. If you are replacing a 2 J wheel with another 2 J wheel, everything will work. Nothing has to be changed. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2014, 08:16:04 PM » |
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Thank you all. Since I'm replacing the wheels with the same year when's, I think this will work out.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2014, 08:46:21 PM » |
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have a rear wheel with brake assy I can sell.
Off a 1999 interstate
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2014, 07:49:33 AM » |
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That is correct use the REAR brake rotor that is the same a model year of the wheel... But why you ask... The rim will push out/against the caliper mounting bracket if the brake rotor/wheel are miss matched, causing it to rub on the brake caliper mounting plate.... but since the calipers are free floating you can take an air saw or metal grinder and remove that 1/8" off the caliper mounting bracket.. This will allow more clearance for the brake rotor to turn freely. DISCLAIMER.. ...I only saying why there is a problem with the mounting of dissimilar parts wheel/rotors... and if you are to modify your bike in anyway I am not responsible with the out come. see #4. http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Honda/Motorcycle/2000/GL1500CF+AC/REAR+BRAKE+CALIPER/parts.html
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2014, 08:03:14 AM » |
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Ok, now I got a question:
I have a '99 standard bike and I got a set of forks and frt wheel (w/rotors) from a 2000 IS.
Is that a direct replacement or will I have to use my '99 rotors?
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Remember, if you are on a bike and wreck with a car no matter how "in the right" you are you are going to lose. RIDE LIKE EVERBODY IS OUT TO GET YOU!! Al
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 08:36:17 AM » |
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Ok, now I got a question:
I have a '99 standard bike and I got a set of forks and frt wheel (w/rotors) from a 2000 IS.
Is that a direct replacement or will I have to use my '99 rotors?
A quick search shows that the same rotor was used on the front of a 97 STD and a 2001 Interstate... Once you have a suspect part number, you can put it into google and then look at one of these kinds of pages to list everything it fits: http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-45220-MZ0-003.html-Mike
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2014, 02:45:30 PM » |
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Ok, now I got a question:
I have a '99 standard bike and I got a set of forks and frt wheel (w/rotors) from a 2000 IS.
Is that a direct replacement or will I have to use my '99 rotors?
Should fit with no problems. My little blurb earlier in this post was only about the rear wheel and rear rotor.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2014, 04:24:54 PM » |
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My question is why are you replacing them?
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2014, 04:54:33 PM » |
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Holy Shitski 
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2014, 05:09:10 PM » |
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i have a front from a 1800 gold wing here at my house that looks like that + it has a 3/16" open crack about 3" inches long. The rear is damaged also but not that bad. He hit a broken cinder block on the freeway headed to Wing Ding. Friend of mine from central MS, got tow to N MS to my local dealer is how I wound up with the wheels. 2 exchange for chrome wheels and 2 new tires later was back on the road to WI. Over $1200 plus the tow, but his insurance will probably cover, since his agent was traveling with him. Pbrain, did you go down, my friend was fortunate and did not.
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2014, 05:11:19 PM » |
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Because a boulder decided to rip into mine at 65 MPH.   You might want to check your steering stem bearings also. Some have said that in a front collision like that they can get damaged.
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2014, 05:26:52 PM » |
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Ken, My tires immediately went flat, but I managed to stay up. Damn cagers just kept whizzing by me while I was wobbling.
@meathead, Insurance is going to cover everything. My agent told me to have that stuff checked out after I get everything put on and he'll amend the claim to include any additional repairs.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2014, 06:43:45 PM » |
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Exactly what I was thinking.... 
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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2014, 07:25:51 PM » |
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A close friend had his front Valkyrie wheel repaired fairly recently. It was a minor bend as the rim still held air and rode fine. He shopped all over town and couldn't find anyone that would touch motorcycle wheels. The story was the same with all the alloy wheel repair shops he contacted: "They used to but stopped." He finally found an out-of-state shop that does it. He had to send them the wheel and wait 2-3 months during the "slow" season to get it done. Apparently demand is high but supply is limited. It cost him approximately $150 and he paid shipping both ways. He's happy with the work that was done.
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2014, 07:07:36 AM » |
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Forget about all the technical talk. I'm impressed that you kept the bike up. Your Guardian Angel must be able to fly faster than you were riding. Nice job!
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2014, 08:41:23 AM » |
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Forget about all the technical talk. I'm impressed that you kept the bike up. Your Guardian Angel must be able to fly faster than you were riding. Nice job!
Thanks... When I'm in these situations, I think of my daughters and helps me focus on staying alive.  My Angels were definitely with me.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2014, 05:24:25 AM » |
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I got a bad bend/ding in my rear wheel from a pothole. (held air, but unsafe)
Took it to my dealer tech guy and he said he would put it in a hydraulic press, but it was 50/50 on whether he could get it back in round, or break the wheel. I said go ahead, and he broke/cracked the wheel, so I got a new used from Pinwall. The wheel could still have been repaired (maybe), but it would have cost at least double what my new used rim did ($200). It went to the junk yard.
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2014, 06:16:42 PM » |
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have a rear wheel with brake assy I can sell.
Off a 1999 interstate
What would you want for the wheel? I may need one soon. Rebuilding from my crunch...
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2014, 01:25:46 PM » |
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here are the wheels from friend's encounter with a cinder block 
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2014, 04:44:54 PM » |
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A local business here in Mesa, AZ can fix wheels like those. I've seen them before/after. Look up Fast Trax in Mesa.
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