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« on: July 24, 2014, 04:32:20 PM » |
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I think Dad had a few cars that push starting was the way he started them. So it got me thinking, when the starter switch or a starter dies, can you roll the bike and drop the clutch? Have you done it? What gear works best?
I guess push starting a bike with a dead battery only works if the voltage is high enough to run the electronic ignition.
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 04:37:31 PM » |
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Yes you can but a big hill is a lot of help  |
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 04:41:37 PM » |
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Yes you can but a big hill is a lot of help Its a lot of help as long as it starts. Pushing that sucker back uphill is brutal  |
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 05:28:44 PM » |
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I think Dad had a few cars that push starting was the way he started them. So it got me thinking, when the starter switch or a starter dies, can you roll the bike and drop the clutch? Have you done it? What gear works best?
I guess push starting a bike with a dead battery only works if the voltage is high enough to run the electronic ignition.
Second gear is the best, starts easily if the state of tune is good. Use some choke if the temp is below 50. And yes, needs to have some juice in the battery to start easily. Hoser |
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 06:13:47 PM » |
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I found out the hard way that you can indeed do it. Fortunately there was a long gradual down slope but I was mighty worried about being stuck at the bottom. I was in an isolated area. Started right up even though I could only get up to a few mph.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 08:03:28 PM » |
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I tried on my Valk once for chuckles, but couldn't do it. Tried a second time, but no joy.
Just hit the starter and road away. Was going to try again, so I would know how to do it if I ever needed too, but haven't yet.
However, I did lower the bike onto the guards, so I could practice raising it again. Very worth while. I was on a trip the end of last month, lifted the bike off the stand to quickly while my wife was on the bike, and went over too far and dropped it.
Since I knew I could, I lifted it first try without hurting myself.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 08:31:35 PM » |
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Did it once when my alternator died. Can't remember, but think I started in third on a slight downhill slope.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2014, 02:00:50 PM » |
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Good to know, I'm going to practice it, hot and cold starts. It won't start a bike that the alternator that stopped working, and the battery has run down to a level the bike won't run.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2014, 02:24:54 PM » |
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Yes. But really I prefer the battery and starter. Ten years ago, I pushed it fast enough alone on level ground to hop on and drop the clutch in 2d gear. Pretty cool. Ten years later, nope. I got two young guys to push it for me. Used a version of Tom Sawyer..... hey, you young fellas look like you are in good shape. I could do it myself, but I'm afraid I'll fall over while trying to hop on. OK, no sweat we'll give you a push old fella, we're strong. Pretty cool.  Offered them a cold beverage, but they were headed back to work. (I really need to get my extra lights switched to ignition. Dummies are prone to leave them on going in the store.) |
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2014, 07:36:14 PM » |
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If the alternator is working but the battery is completely dead you can push it with your wife in the saddle and it will start. Level ground is a big plus. It may take you a bit to get back to your own bike and catch up.  |
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2014, 08:04:23 PM » |
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I made 3 gas stops once to get home on a dead battery.
With the blower, It needed the help of a car battery to get started in that cold morning, but at each gas stop, i could push start it myself within 3meter. 1st or 2nd gear.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2014, 05:06:10 AM » |
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If I tried this by myself, I would dump the bike for sure.  Call AAA.  FWIW |
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2014, 08:05:53 AM » |
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My A M A membership and my insurance provide towing and such like. Time was I could push start a motor-THAT time has passed--  RIDE SAFE. |
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2014, 02:17:07 PM » |
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Push started my a few times. Any slight slope, like a driveway is enough. I just sat in the saddle pushed a few steps and popped the clutch.
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2014, 08:16:17 AM » |
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I think Dad had a few cars that push starting was the way he started them. So it got me thinking, when the starter switch or a starter dies, can you roll the bike and drop the clutch? Have you done it? What gear works best?
I guess push starting a bike with a dead battery only works if the voltage is high enough to run the electronic ignition.
After hydrolock and starter not working, I've push started one of my valks at least 200 times.. Used first, ran it.. Then hopped on the seat while releasing the clutch and giving gas and voila... No slope nothing. However, I'm 22 and weighed about 200lbs if that counts for anything. |
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2014, 09:19:20 AM » |
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After hydrolock and starter not working, I've push started one of my valks at least 200 times.. Used first, ran it.. Then hopped on the seat while releasing the clutch and giving gas and voila... No slope nothing. However, I'm 22 and weighed about 200lbs if that counts for anything. First gear and ran it!  You did get the most exercise you could out of it. I won't try to give you more insight as it is behind you now. Besides I'm just impressed that you're one of the few members who will spell voila correctly.  |
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2014, 10:25:55 AM » |
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Besides I'm just impressed that you're one of the few members who will spell voila correctly. Unless he was describing the background music in his head. Walla; a viola!  |
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2014, 10:47:51 AM » |
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Besides I'm just impressed that you're one of the few members who will spell voila correctly. Unless he was describing the background music in his head. Walla; a viola! OMG that's hilarious |
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2014, 11:09:36 AM » |
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I fried the starter switch in western Nebraska a couple years ago. I left it running for the 600 miles I needed to get home. I ain't pushing that big sumbitch every time I need gas. Hoser |
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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2014, 11:30:46 AM » |
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I fried the starter switch in western Nebraska a couple years ago. I left it running for the 600 miles I needed to get home. I ain't pushing that big sumbitch every time I need gas. Hoser Couldn't agree more!  |
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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2014, 12:08:29 PM » |
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I think Dad had a few cars that push starting was the way he started them. So it got me thinking, when the starter switch or a starter dies, can you roll the bike and drop the clutch? Have you done it? What gear works best?
I guess push starting a bike with a dead battery only works if the voltage is high enough to run the electronic ignition.
After hydrolock and starter not working, I've push started one of my valks at least 200 times.. Used first, ran it.. Then hopped on the seat while releasing the clutch and giving gas and voila... No slope nothing. However, I'm 22 and weighed about 200lbs if that counts for anything. Being 22 does help! Next time push it in neutral hop on and shift to 2nd |
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2014, 06:52:43 PM » |
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I have push started my interstate many times. The same can be said with other bikes, cars and trucks. Most people put it in 2nd gear and dump the clutch and let it shake like crazy. I use first gear. The trick is to have the key on, push the vehicle, pop the clutch and immediately pull/push the clutch back in and give it gas. Works with an ignition that has been left on for 3 hours while the bike was parked. Dont Ask.......
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2014, 09:42:12 PM » |
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I've seen a few people here say push start in 1st or 2nd gear.
I've had a couple alternator/battery issues, a couple times forgot to switch off the battery.
I've thanked my lucky stars I've been at the top of a hill most of the time.
For me, having a hill, 5th gear seemed the easiest, least jerky.
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« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2014, 07:07:50 AM » |
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I have push started my interstate many times. The same can be said with other bikes, cars and trucks. Most people put it in 2nd gear and dump the clutch and let it shake like crazy. I use first gear. The trick is to have the key on, push the vehicle, pop the clutch and immediately pull/push the clutch back in and give it gas. Works with an ignition that has been left on for 3 hours while the bike was parked. Dont Ask.......
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« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2014, 07:13:48 AM » |
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I keep a spare key in the seat release. Hoser |
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« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2014, 09:22:33 AM » |
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Hydro locked in my mother's driveway in Ohio, while on a family visit. chewed up enough teeth that the starter wouldn't engage. Had to push start it 450 miles back home to Illinois! My wife was with me (on her bike), so I had some help. It sucked, but we got the bike home. At one stop for lunch, a couple guys saw us rolling it to push start and offered to help (more of an offer to help my wife than help me...  ). He was pushing the bike when I popped the clutch (in 2nd gear) and he ended up flat on his face when the bike took off. I felt a little bad, but not much, for him making eyes at the wife.... |
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2014, 06:37:13 PM » |
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you bet you can. My starter gave me no warning that it wasn't going to work and thank goodness i was in a position that was on a small slope. I sat on the bike moving it forward, had it in neutral, easier to push; down once to first, pop the clutch and it fired right up. Try it sometime!
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