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Author Topic: New battery and trouble !!!!  (Read 1398 times)
larue
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« on: August 09, 2014, 01:25:15 PM »

Hi there fellas, hoping to make tomorrows ride here in FL, i bought a new YUASA YTX14 BS battery, follwed the instructions yesterday morning and hooked it to battery tender Jr at noon,  24 hours later today at 11 the light on charger was solid green, took it out and put it on bike, fired right up, went to home depot six miles away came out and voila, light on start switch didnt even crank, a freind came in his cage, before jump starting it, push the starter and it crank but no go, jump started it and fired up again, died when i down shifted couple miles b4 home, he was following me we jumped it again and it got me home,..took it out  and put it on a tender till tomoorw and see what happens...
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Bike sat foe a month while i went to see my ill mother and was not hooked to a battery tender when i was gone.
all fuses are good,
the ground from battery to frame is solid not loose,
connectors solid,
could it be a regulator somewhere or alternator which i am dreading  Sad hope not
Any Help is appreciated.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2014, 01:31:34 PM »

You never charged that battery.  A tender Jr will not do it.  That new battery needs a full charge with a charger and you will be fine.
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bassman
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2014, 01:32:38 PM »

I'm no expert but I'm not sure a new battery can be fully or properly charged with a Battery Tender Jr......think you need one with more power.....others with more knowledge can clarify this will and correct me if I'm wrong......
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2014, 02:25:20 PM »

Did you check the voltage on the battery?  If it went below 9 or 10 volts, it's probably toast.  Might hold a charge for a little while, but it'll probably leave you stranded. 
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larue
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2014, 02:43:21 PM »

I'm no expert but I'm not sure a new battery can be fully or properly charged with a Battery Tender Jr......think you need one with more power.....others with more knowledge can clarify this will and correct me if I'm wrong......
Took it to auto zone for overnight charge, hope that should do it, will see tomorrow , thsnks
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Michvalk
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2014, 03:48:40 PM »

Yeah, A battery tender is a maintainer for a fully charged battery. They are not designed or intended to charge a battery cooldude
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Patrick
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2014, 05:13:56 PM »

I don't think you mentioned why you changed the battery. Problem before that ?
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larue
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2014, 11:37:40 PM »

I don't think you mentioned why you changed the battery. Problem before that ?
Old one was toast Sad
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Patrick
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2014, 05:40:17 AM »

I don't think you mentioned why you changed the battery. Problem before that ?
Old one was toast Sad




What does that mean ? We're trying help. If you were having a similar issue with the old battery, then maybe something else is wrong. Like maybe a bad alternator, corroded ground, etc. Did you remove the ground at the engine and clean it ? Did you scrape the battery terminals ?
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BonS
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2014, 07:03:21 AM »

This is what Battery Tender has to say about their charger:

For example, a 16 Ah battery will take about 13 hours to get to the absorption voltage (constant 14.4 Volts). It may take another 6 to 8 hours to reach the float voltage (constant 13.2 Volts). This may sound awkward; because what happens is that the battery charge current drops while the absorption voltage is held constant. When the battery current drops to 0.1 amp, or if 6 to hours have elapsed at the absorption voltage, the charger automatically switches its output from 14.4 V to 13.2 V. So it may take the better part of 20 hours to reach the float stage. Add another 24 hours to that and you are at 44 hours. Throw in another 4 hours for good measure and you get a nice round, even 48 hours, or 2 days."

So it is possible to charge a new battery with a Battery Tender - but slow.

Maybe it's your starter switch malfunctioning and it simply needs cleaning?
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signart
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2014, 08:16:10 AM »

Start and rode 6 miles, no start. Then died while down shifting? Bad alt or something, not battery, my guess.
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Ricky-D
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2014, 11:09:49 AM »

Regardless,,,, a new battery should have enough in it to start the bike many more times than your battery allowed.

There is something amiss here!

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2014, 12:04:45 PM »

Clean the Battery terminals on the new battery. A new battery can sit on a shelf for a couple of years before it is sold. The lead on the terminals can oxidize . Now you install your new battery and you clean the cable end but you don't clean the battery terminals  because it's a new battery. The connection will come and go as it pleases and the bike will run or be dead.  All this is from a lesson I learned the hard way.

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larue
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2014, 04:38:42 PM »

I don't think you mentioned why you changed the battery. Problem before that ?
Old one was toast Sad
The first battery 1 and half yr old , model was Xtreme , after bike sat for a month , It didn't start put on a battery tender 24 hrs no testing , installed terminals good, ground wire to frame is tight, never took the wire off nor cleaned it but checked and looks good. Bought new batter charged it on battery tender 24 hrs, solid green light put in bike fired up rode 6 miles and it died everytime I slow down. Came to realize it needed better charger. Took it to autozone yesterday and today I put it on bike fired up rode around a bit parked for 5 hrs , then my friend used a voltmeter to test it, reading was 12.03 at 2000 rpm after the 5 hrs. When I picked it up at autozone their reading was 13.49!!!!!!whats next fellas
Thank you again for all your help
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Bighead
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2014, 04:42:45 PM »

Alternator.
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Patrick
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2014, 05:33:43 PM »

You have a bad connection somewhere , a bad alternator, or, both.
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2014, 06:55:15 PM »

Yup, alternator or connections within the charging circuit.
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 01:38:02 PM »

I don't get battery tenders...I don't use one..never have.

If battery happens to die after sitting for x amount of time, (hasn't happened yet), I'll jump it and taker for an hour ride.
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