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« on: September 02, 2014, 08:01:43 PM » |
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This is the first time I've posted in the technical section.
I took my Valk in about a month ago because the rear brake was shot. I had the mechanic (who another Valk rider recommended) check the rest of the bike since I haven't done any maintenance on it in 2 years. He found a broken line off one of the carborators and reattached it and fixed the brakes, etc. and the fun has begun.
The brakes were still soft so he changed the rotors. Maybe they're fixed.
The bike was stalling in the garage but also so full of power I had to park backwards in the garage, not to go thru the wall when starting. He cleaned the vacuum line (?) and fixed the idle.
Now I have power and it sounds like a Valk upon turning the bike on. However, by the end of the block it's as loud as a H-D, ugh.
And if that's not enough, when I brake it pulses or pulls to a stop. I can't figure if the bike is SO revved up that it's trying to go while I'm trying to stop or if maybe the brakes are still not fixed and the rotor is warped and pulsing under my foot.
Has anyone else had the idle so high to have this sensation with braking? Any other ideas to all this rhetoric?
I'm so frustrated with this, I'm soon gonna trailer my bike back to OK to MY mechanic or sell this Valk and start over with another.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Eir, a healing goddess and/or a valkyrie.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2014, 08:15:40 PM » |
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I think I would start by having a looooooooong talk with the guy who supposedly fixed it and ask what the hell he did to it.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 03:44:45 AM » |
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It sounds as though you have more than one problem. I too would go back and have a chat with that mechanics.
What speed does the engine idle at ? cold/ about 600 RPM ,, warm should 900 RPM. That can be changed with the plastic screw between #1 and #3 intakes.[ right calf]
The idle should be smooth and power transition should be smooth.
When in neutral or clutch pulled in the bike shouldn't want to jerk forward.
The brakes should also work smoothly. If are jerky there is something drastically wrong. If they pulsate there is something wrong with one or more rotors.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2014, 06:59:30 AM » |
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Eir - At this point possibly the best thing for you to do is go into the VRCC Texas chapter forum and ask around for a reputable shop to repair or possibly have one of the guys that is close to you look at the bike and evaluate it. Except for the brake issue am betting the low speed running issue will be a simple one. Here is the link to the Texas Chapter http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php?board=3.0By the way - Welcome to the Valkyrie Asylum! |
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2014, 07:49:56 AM » |
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How many miles on the bike and/or how often has it been ridden? I'm betting the running problems aren't serious and are probably vacuum related. Carbs may be gummy. Brakes would just have to be looked at. I have just a slight bit of warp in one front rotor but I don't have what you're talking about. I wonder if the rotors sat awhile and have a rough spot in them. I was hoping Harker Heights was a bit closer, but I know there's a guy down by Basstrop on the board, maybe he could take a look. I wouldn't mind but I bet he's closer. Can't recall his name.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2014, 08:15:37 AM » |
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The brakes still soft so he changed the rotors? Ridiculous! Sounds to me this guy didn't know squat about bikes, let alone Valkyries. Sounds like you need to forget about him and have one of our members take a look. This guy didn't do you any favors.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2014, 08:47:48 AM » |
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sound like you might have some air in the brake lines and also the clutch line if it wants to jerk and move forward while starting. i would start with bleeding the brake and clutch and turn the idle down to around 900 rpm as was mentioned before. Find a valk owner close to you and see if they would come help. the brake pulsing could be caused by old brake fluid also, could need a good cleaning and flush. Good luck getting her right. these guys on here are great and and great at diagnosing problems from hundreds of miles away.
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2014, 05:56:24 PM » |
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Pulsing is most likely a warped rotor. Almost sounds like he grabbed your good rotor and swapped a warped one onto your bike. A rotor change for soft brakes makes zero sense.
I took the liberty of copying the thread and pasting it over in the Texas forum. Those guys and gals over there are great and am betting you will get some sort of help soon.
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2014, 07:23:13 PM » |
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Pulsing is most likely a warped rotor. Almost sounds like he grabbed your good rotor and swapped a warped one onto your bike. A rotor change for soft brakes makes zero sense.
I took the liberty of copying the thread and pasting it over in the Texas forum. Those guys and gals over there are great and am betting you will get some sort of help soon.
+1 Come to the Texas board so we can find someone near you to help out. Your so-called mechanic likely turned simple problems into a hot mess. I agree with others that you've probably got air in the brake and clutch lines, or that the fluid is in really bad shape. It could also be that he didn't seat the front axle properly when he put on the new rotors, which might explain the pulsing and pull. But I also think he's introduced a vacuum problem somewhere by monkeying with a line he didn't know anything about. There are a couple of lines under the tank that are not supposed to connect to anything. There's a Valk gathering in Fredericksburg in October. If you could get the bike there safely, there will be knowledge and tools aplenty to help you out. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2014, 06:37:04 AM » |
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hey y'll, an update...read your advise and talked with our mechanic from OK (who is a Valk rider and Honda dealer) and he had much the same advise. SO, my husband put the idle in the right place and I believe that solved much of the aesthetics issue. Certainly if I wanted a bike as loud as a Hardley, I would have bought one.
SO, now to the brakes, which was the real reason I took the bike in. I still think y'll are right and he switched my good rotor for a warped one. I'm working on my "tactfulness" to return to discuss the repercussions. Some days it's tough being a Westerner in a PC world. HA
All in all I have learned...come to the Valkyrie forum FIRST!
I sure do wish I had some more Valkyrie riders in the Killeen area. I've seen a few but rarely.
I do believe I will be seeing many of you in Fredericksburg in October. We've been kicking it around but are usually too spontaneous for plans this far in advance.
Thanks all for the advise. You guys are AWESOME!
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2014, 12:47:15 AM » |
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Eir, as has been suggested, get your bike to where some of us are and we can help figure it out. If you are ever in the Houston area, you are welcome to bring it over to the big storeroom I rent for my Valkyrie and projects and we will figure it out.
Jerry
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2014, 09:28:52 AM » |
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The brakes still soft so he changed the rotors? Ridiculous! Sounds to me this guy didn't know squat about bikes, let alone Valkyries. Sounds like you need to forget about him and have one of our members take a look. This guy didn't do you any favors.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014, 06:18:33 AM » |
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Happy to see that one particular reply was pulled from this thread!
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