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Just when I thought I was getting it all together....my son and I took a ride on our bikes to a local state park. We stopped near the house to fuel up before we left for the state park. Fueled up and we each rode our bikes headed for Petit Jean State Park. When we got to the state park, I pulled in at a place for us to stop and see some sites and walk around a bit. This is when I discovered that my ignition key was GONE....MISSING.....not to be found. Needless to say that we jumped back on the road headed for home. Pulled into the shop at the house and used a screw driver to turn the Valk off. Went and had 3 keys made at our local Honda dealership (55 miles away....one way).
My question is WHY would the key fall out of a running down the highway motorcycle?
Inquiring minds wanna know. ???
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mike72903
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 12:25:37 PM » |
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Wow, didn't realize it could come out while turned on. Going to check mine asap
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 12:27:59 PM » |
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I have a hidden key on mine in case I lose my key.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2014, 12:47:40 PM » |
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If the key can fall out after you have turned it on, your ignition switch has gone south.
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sawdustar
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2014, 01:01:20 PM » |
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If the key can fall out after you have turned it on, your ignition switch has gone south.
Well, the interesting thing about this is......The new keys I had made....will NOT jiggle or pull out of the ignition switch when turned to the run position. My son's VT1100....we had the same exact thing happen and had to go have keys made for his bike. This happened on my son's bike about 2 years ago. Same thing, new keys will NOT jiggle or pull out of the ignition...just like the new keys made for my Valk. |
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2014, 01:07:43 PM » |
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I have an ignition switch that will no hold a key in once it is turned on, I hadn't thought about a worn key. Glad it's the key, not the switch.
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If you are riding and it is a must that you keep your eyes on the road, you are riding too fast. |
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2014, 01:41:59 PM » |
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Do not load up a bike key (chain) with a bunch of other gobbledygook to blow around in the wind and work on the lock tumblers.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2014, 02:38:21 PM » |
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Do not load up a bike key (chain) with a bunch of other gobbledygook to blow around in the wind and work on the lock tumblers.
It's really the the "Gobbledygook that really messes it up.  |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2014, 04:53:22 PM » |
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Do not load up a bike key (chain) with a bunch of other gobbledygook to blow around in the wind and work on the lock tumblers.
That's one of the first things drilled into my head when I started flying. Keep all the extra crap in your pocket, not on the key ring because it will eventually wear the tumblers and you run the chance of shutting off the ignition in mid-flight. My bike key is a single item with a small leather thong attached to it. And when I take a ride other than local errands, I ALWAYS take an extra key stuck in my other jeans pocket. |
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2014, 05:26:01 PM » |
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I was always wondering what that metallic noise was on my bike every time I took a RH turn. Turned out to be all those extra keys swinging into the engine (metal-on-metal noise).
That is why I have my ignition key on a single key chain, and a spare key on my regular key chain with all my other keys. Gives me that spare when I'm out ridding, and incase I need to get something from the bike while I walk past it from the car to the house.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2014, 05:55:14 PM » |
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I have seen this before at our dealership. The key was so worn that it comes out in the run position.
Now with the FOBS, all we worry about are the dead batteries in them!
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R J
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2014, 09:37:40 PM » |
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All my key has on it is an old Gold Wing radio knob that has the little park of the key siliconed in.
I carry another key in my pocket so as to open the gas door or the saddlebags back when I had them. Actually those keys are on a snap hooked to my belt loop.
I don't think the key has been out of the switch since I did this mod in California at a Ride-In. Dennis, who is now a Arizona Law Enforcer actually did it. I think he works at the weight station at the state line. He has been there like 15 years now.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2014, 10:12:39 PM » |
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I keep an extra key for my wife's bike in my toolbag and she has mine in her bike. Couple we ride lost a bike key down an outhouse YUCK!!!
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2014, 04:31:13 AM » |
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I keep an extra key for my wife's bike in my toolbag and she has mine in her bike. Couple we ride lost a bike key down an outhouse YUCK!!!
They didn't fish it out did they ? |
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2014, 07:52:22 AM » |
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I keep an extra key for my wife's bike in my toolbag and she has mine in her bike. Couple we ride lost a bike key down an outhouse YUCK!!!
They didn't fish it out did they ? Oh..!!! That leaves a really bad image in my head.!!!!  ??? |
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 08:21:30 AM » |
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Mine will come out. New key. I just attached a small nut to the leather thong and have a magnet stuck to the right hand rear motor mount bolt. Looks like it belongs there. Isn't going anywhere now.
I DID order an ignition switch with the other locks... Still waiting... That was a year ago.
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sawdustar
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 01:29:25 PM » |
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Mine will come out. New key. I just attached a small nut to the leather thong and have a magnet stuck to the right hand rear motor mount bolt. Looks like it belongs there. Isn't going anywhere now.
I DID order an ignition switch with the other locks... Still waiting... That was a year ago.
DUDE....!!!!! What kind of ignition switch did you order that a year later you're still waiting on it? |
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R J
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 01:36:23 PM » |
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Mine will come out. New key. I just attached a small nut to the leather thong and have a magnet stuck to the right hand rear motor mount bolt. Looks like it belongs there. Isn't going anywhere now.
I DID order an ignition switch with the other locks... Still waiting... That was a year ago.
DUDE....!!!!! What kind of ignition switch did you order that a year later you're still waiting on it? Sure hope you never paid for that switch up front. I'd try somewhere else for that switch. |
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2014, 02:39:34 PM » |
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With the lock in such a condition is it possible to still
turn it "on" and "off" without the key? If you park
the bike in a secure area, like a garage, all the other
times a lock isn't necessary anyway - Nobody will
steal a Valkyrie. There's probably less than 1 bike
stolen each year. If you ever notice, most Harley riders
neglect to lock their bikes under normal riding.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2014, 06:40:57 PM » |
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Agree, but having your key fall out and blow away is not good. The electrical outlets in my house were so old and worn, the cords would fall out of the wall of their own weight. I changed every one. I only got lit up once. Good thing I was grounded to a concrete floor (and already sitting down).  |
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2014, 04:44:30 AM » |
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K E Y S !! I don't need no stinkin' keys...  Hee Hee  |
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2014, 07:05:05 AM » |
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My fault for ordering all the locks at the same time. Thinking I'd get a set. I doubt that, and yeah, I paid. You have to pay for Honda parts up front. Haven't ping'ed them for awhile, I'll d that today.
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2014, 07:31:22 AM » |
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Posts like this always make one run out and check their own Valk(s). My key only moves 1/16" when I pull with a little force. I do not want to pull hard because I know what may happen. Many years ago I let a friend drive my '69 Camaro SS. While parking it, he yanked out the key because I failed to tell him about the interlock that required the 4-speed transmission to be in reverse. From that point on, I could remove the key while the engine was running. I considered it a handy feature, not a problem.
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