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Author Topic: Suggestions on filling dents on gas tank.  (Read 1323 times)
John Schmidt
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« on: January 17, 2015, 04:54:15 PM »

Finally got the 1200's OEM carbs overhauled and installed. Took a while to scrounge the missing parts so I had a complete set, sold the single carb manifold I built plus the carb, $130 which is more than I had in it. That worked out fine because by the time Ebay and PayPal took their cut, I broke even which was OK with me. I converted a Valk petcock to manual and ordered an inline fuel shutoff from Aircraft Spruce. It's made to mount in a panel so I can hang it on the left side. Plan to run the fuel line from the petcock to the shutoff, then down to the carbs. The Valk tank I got from Eddie(Tropic Traveler) and adapted it to mount on the 1200, removed the original tank and tossed it. Full of rust and pinholes. The only problem with that tank is the petcock is too far back and can't be accessed straight out like on the Valk, two sections of the frame interfere. So, I'll just turn it on and leave it on, letting the inline shutoff take care of that part of the operation. Then if removing the tank is necessary, since I have it hinged at the back you just need to remove the front bolt, tip it up and turn off the petcock by hand. That way it won't leak when you remove the fuel line. Remove the rear bolt and lift it off. I've found I don't need a fuel pump with gravity feed. I hang an external tank on the front and drop a line to the carb fuel line, runs fine.

Today I used the carb sync gauge set Rita got me for Christmas. Darn bike was rattling the windows according to Rita, was running quite rough and really loud. I hooked up all the lines at one time and started the bike, having already warmed it up. Synced the two right side carbs and what a difference with just those two, the RPM increased a good 500. I backed that off and synced the left two carbs, same result. Backed off the RPM to ~1k and then synced the left and right sides to each other. What a difference in both noise and smoothness, also noticed it uses much less fuel than the single carb setup I had mounted previously. The old Wing has a unique method for carb sync; sync each side together, then a third screw syncs the two sides to each other. Worked beautifully with the gauges, I'm almost tempted to buy two more and make a six cylinder sync gauge out of it to use on the Valk. Darn thing still has a small drip oil leak right over the left header. One drip and all the skeeters are gone.  Grin  Thinking seriously of simply making a shield to bolt up under the engine and over the affected header pipe, just to keep the drops off it. Otherwise it means I'd probably have to pull the head on that side just to try and find the source, which wouldn't be guaranteed either.

Getting back to the tank, it has 3-4 small dents in it. I plan to sand it down thoroughly then try filling the dents. Not sure what to use, is Bondo any better than it was back when I was 17 and driving a Bondo Bandit?  Or would it be better to use lead? It's been a few decades since I've used either method so looking for the best approach from someone with recent experience. Any help out there?
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 06:19:13 PM »

try over filling it then the dents will pop out I bet?   Grin   
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 07:48:56 PM »

Bondo has gotten much better than it was in my younger days. It all still hinges on the prep. Also, see if you can get some of the dent out to minimize the thickness of the bonds.

I've got a fair bit of experience from my younger days and using lead, wooden paddle and wax. My body refinish instructor at GM Training center was British (stiff upper lip and all!) and only let us use lead. You have to be extremely careful with something like a tank. Too much localized heat and you make a dimple you can't get out.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2015, 05:12:20 AM »



Have you considered the dent less people?

They used them at the dealership I drove shuttle for.

They had these little long handled tools, they would stick the end in where the dent was and would do a slow tapping on the dent from the backside.     After say 25 or 30 little smacks, the dent would almost be gone.   Some more direct dinging and the dent would completely disappear.     The guys & gals who came to the shop out there we super good at dent removal, and worth every nickle they charged.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2015, 05:52:09 AM »

You might try super glueing some thing to the dent and popping it out, if that doesn't work I used bondo to repair an IS tank I bought for my standard.  It worked out well, here are some pics:




Sorry I thought I had a better finished shot than this, but this was all I could find, zoom in on right front of tank.



I just took a photo of the tank out in the garage, this is about 1 yr after the repair, and what looks like scratches on the rear of the tank are reflections.  This repair was made with the premium bondo, and the paint is duplicolor honda black rattle can with their clear lacquer on top.



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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 05:58:43 AM »

I forgot all about the original post as I was drooling over your man cave.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 07:51:22 AM »

try over filling it then the dents will pop out I bet?   Grin   
That only works on wrinkles Deb, notice I don't have many!  Grin

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2015, 07:58:27 AM »

I forgot all about the original post as I was drooling over your man cave.

Sorry, not my, man cave I wish it was.  That picture was taken in my ridin' bud, Binkie's man cave.  He has it made, that place is on a lake, full of custom cars, and several bikes.  I had mine over there to do a little welding on my exhaust.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2015, 11:09:15 AM »

Here is a link to a post with some better pictures, I don't know why I can't find them on line

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,65805.msg641409.html#msg641409
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2015, 11:17:44 AM »

John can't you turn the petcock off and blow in the filler hole real hard?
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2015, 12:35:45 PM »

John can't you turn the petcock off and blow in the filler hole real hard?
Geez Roger, are you saying I'm windy?  Grin  They're small dents and those aren't prone to popping out under air pressure. Some appear to be about the size of a quarter.

And....it appears I'm going to have to pull the left head to determine the cause of the oil drip. I can actually see it building and oozing at the bottom of the head. So aggravating, it runs fine and starts with only a tiny bump of the starter.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2015, 06:02:49 PM »

Seems like there is always something.  I'm sure you will get it all done and done right.
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