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« on: April 18, 2015, 02:42:13 PM » |
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I'm thrilled with my new 2014 Valk!
I did hit the ghost neutral between 4/5 but honestly it's probably my own fault. Used to sport bikes and Harley's where the faintest kick up engages a gear. The Valkyrie is a more solid bike in every respect. Just not used to such a solid freaking transmission!
Hope this doesn't lead to future problems but that's what a warranty is for right?
Anybody else's clutch engagement or catch point REALLY close to the handlebar?
Seems like unless I pull it pretty much all the way to the bar, maybe a half inch away from it, she'll lurch forward a bit (in 1st from a stop). Owners manual says this means the clutch should be flushed/bled but the dealer says it's okay... I read elsewhere that starting in 2nd is best but I'd assume I'll have a similar issue regardless of gear if it's the clutch lever engagement point...
Thoughts?
Glad to be here!!
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 06:08:31 AM » |
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Greetings... glad you like your new Valkyrie/naked-goldwing... I can take off in 1st easy and the clutch doesn't seem grabby, but I'm used to the original Valkyrie, sounds like you're used to a sport-bike...  -Mike |
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thork86
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 06:57:56 AM » |
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Thanks for the reply! I am definitely used to a sport bike and standard bike. Like I said, admittedly the trans on the 'wing/Valk is different but my big concern is the clutch catch point. It's not that it's unsmooth or grabby at all, I'm saying the point at which the clutches start to catch/the bike moves forward is really close to the handlebar. Put another way, you have to pull the clutch in what seems to be excessively close to the handlebars in order to completely get the bike in neutral. Anyways... It's probably just me  |
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CajunRider
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 12:33:30 PM » |
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Clutch engagement on the 1800 is really close for some reason.
You may also notice that if you don't pull the clutch ALL the way in, it will idle high (about 1200 - 1500 rpm). Supposedly, this is to help stop you from stalling the engine when you start to let out on the lever.
In any case, it's nothing to worry about. It's normal on the 1800... although quite annoying. Especially annoying to me as I two-finger the clutch (always have, even on the 1500 Valk) and the revs sit high while I'm waiting at a light unless I move the other two fingers and pull the lever ALL the way in.
I'm hoping I can one day figure out a way to modify the lever so that it moves out another 1/2 inch or so.
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thork86
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2015, 02:22:02 PM » |
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Clutch engagement on the 1800 is really close for some reason.
You may also notice that if you don't pull the clutch ALL the way in, it will idle high (about 1200 - 1500 rpm). Supposedly, this is to help stop you from stalling the engine when you start to let out on the lever.
In any case, it's nothing to worry about. It's normal on the 1800... although quite annoying. Especially annoying to me as I two-finger the clutch (always have, even on the 1500 Valk) and the revs sit high while I'm waiting at a light unless I move the other two fingers and pull the lever ALL the way in.
I'm hoping I can one day figure out a way to modify the lever so that it moves out another 1/2 inch or so.
Thank you sir, that's exactly what I was looking for. I'm experiencing all of the above and if this is normal behavior, I'm thrilled. Well, I'm upset that this is the way of the world with the 1800, but glad that it is not a problem specific to my bike! |
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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2015, 04:15:46 PM » |
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Wasn't sure, does the 1800 Valkyrie not have the adjustment dial on the brake and clutch levers? My F6B has the little dial that you can adjust to change up where the lever starts it's action.
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bscrive
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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2015, 06:04:35 PM » |
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Wasn't sure, does the 1800 Valkyrie not have the adjustment dial on the brake and clutch levers? My F6B has the little dial that you can adjust to change up where the lever starts it's action.
Nope, no adjustment dial. I ordered a black pair from a guy in the UK on eBay. Kind of stupid that Honda went cheap on this. |
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thork86
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2015, 05:32:55 AM » |
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I understand this is from the standard Goldwing 1800 manual (so ignore the adjustment wheel piece) but interesting they describe the lurching forward issue. They recommend to bleed the clutch. Again, if it's normal that our clutch just needs to come in nearly all the way down, so be it. Just more food for thought    |
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2015, 07:15:36 PM » |
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Nope, no adjustment dial. I ordered a black pair from a guy in the UK on eBay. Kind of stupid that Honda went cheap on this.
Don't feel bad... the F6B and Wing has the adjustable levers, but it only make about 1/8 inch of a difference on my Wing (2014 model). I want about 1/2 inch to be "comfortable" with it. Sadly, even with mine adjusted ALL the way out, the lever still has about 1/2 inch of play before it's at it's maximum distance. One of these days I'm going to pull off the adjuster wheel to see if I can space it out a bit more (J-B Weld to the rescue!!). |
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 06:34:11 AM » |
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Ok cool, glad to hear it seems to be a universal "problem" for 1800 Valkyries and Goldwings alike.  |
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woofred1832
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2015, 07:32:41 AM » |
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Welcome, I am new to this site myself just 3 months ago. I really like what I see and read.................Enjoy the open road as we all do.
Heres a good one, 4 wheels moves the body.
2 wheels frees the soul.
ride safe ...... woofred
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2015, 04:12:01 AM » |
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Ok cool, glad to hear it seems to be a universal "problem" for 1800 Valkyries and Goldwings alike. Not sure about that. I don't perceive any issues with my F6B. ??? |
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2015, 01:29:11 PM » |
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Ok cool, glad to hear it seems to be a universal "problem" for 1800 Valkyries and Goldwings alike. Not sure about that. I don't perceive any issues with my F6B. ??? I don't have any problem, like this, with my new valk. |
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thork86
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2015, 09:51:29 PM » |
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Having spent the better part of a week riding the new steed, I'm pretty sure the whole issue comes from me not being used to the goldwing clutch or powertrain as a whole (trans and motor behavior) Lots of new noises and quirks to learn about. Seems to have a much lower clutch engagement point than other cruisers I've had. Again, I need to squeeze the lever within half an inch of the handlebar to fully allow neutral from holding in the clutch. From what our owners manual says (see above), this could still be the clutch fluid needing to be bled... The bike can lurch/surge ahead when put into gear from neutral, but once I pull the clutch lever nearly to the handlebar, all is well (revs go up, motor/trans separate) I'd realistically need to go test another Valk since I can't remember it being this way or not on the demo ride model. Hell, I can now easily find neutral whereas before it was like solving Pandora's box  |
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2015, 07:33:23 AM » |
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Welcome to the insanity!
I use all 4 fingers and pull the clutch in all the way, I have noticed that if I'm not paying attention or being lazy I've had the bike lurch, especially when it's cold cause it rev's a bit on it's own when it's cold.
As to the "false neutral" between 4/5, I have not seen it in the 15k miles I've put on mine. But I have hit it many times in the 80k miles that I put on my VTX 1300c, it's nothing to worry about. Just shift with purpose!
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thork86
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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2015, 02:06:20 PM » |
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Welcome to the insanity!
I use all 4 fingers and pull the clutch in all the way, I have noticed that if I'm not paying attention or being lazy I've had the bike lurch, especially when it's cold cause it rev's a bit on it's own when it's cold.
As to the "false neutral" between 4/5, I have not seen it in the 15k miles I've put on mine. But I have hit it many times in the 80k miles that I put on my VTX 1300c, it's nothing to worry about. Just shift with purpose!
Thanks for the welcome and confirmation I'm not crazy myself!  Haha. |
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