O-B-1
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« on: April 26, 2015, 04:49:07 PM » |
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Got the cover off.
There are no rivet remains laying in the bottom of the clutch housing.
The symptoms were like the dampener plate had failed. The clutch lever would hard stop only halfway down when shifting, then it would slip in 5th gear on acceleration.
Guess I will have to take a look once I get the clutch pack out. See if the rivet remains are still inside.
Anyone know where the disconnect plug for the kick stand safety switch may be? The kickstand is hanging by the wires, they disappear up inside near the battery box.
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David W. Mitchell
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2015, 06:12:01 PM » |
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Hey O-B-1,, I have always found it easier to remove the switch from the stand, there are a couple of parts that come loose, but I have never had a problem getting it back right,,, maybe take a picture.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2015, 01:34:52 PM » |
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If I remember correctly, the bolt for the kickstand has a hole in the head of the bolt for the bolt that holds the safety switch. Remove that bolt from the kickstand bolt and the safety switch comes off. I removed the safety switch a couple years ago when it failed.
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O-B-1
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2015, 02:08:19 PM » |
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Thanks, guys... I will try that. It is a little cumbersome working in there trying to keep the kickstand out of the way and having the slave cylinder floating around, also.
I am hoping the clutch basket is not damaged. I have to assume, since there were no rivet remains in the bottom of the case that they must still be confined within the basket somewhere.
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O-B-1
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2015, 10:08:59 AM » |
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Rented a 32MM socket from Autozone... Tried to get the clutch internals nut loose with a breaker bar last night. I will HAVE to build the "special tool" to hold the clutch still whilst I "reef" on the breaker bar.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2015, 01:58:50 PM » |
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I made one out of a 2x4. An impact wrench works, too.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2015, 02:01:03 PM » |
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I made one out of a 2x4. An impact wrench works, too.
Here's a picture:  |
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O-B-1
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2015, 10:46:20 AM » |
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I made one out of a 2x4. An impact wrench works, too.
Thank you, Sir! I will be making a tool tonight, if I can get home from my 60 mile commute before Tacoma Screw closes... Need to get some longer bolts for it. I cut some "al-loo-min-ee-um" tubing 7/8" long for the spacers around the lower portion of the bolts. |
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O-B-1
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2015, 10:25:03 AM » |
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Clutch woe blow!
My Honda special tool clutch holder worked great. Removed the clutch pack from the bike.
A friend came over, hauled the clutch pack & I to the shop he works at, and we disassembled the clutch pack. One rivet was already missing. Another fell apart and out of the dampener into my hands! The basket has no damage, thank God.
Well, started to stack the new friction plates, dampener plate. When I got to the first steel plate, found it was badly burned, second also burned, third was burned too but just minor. Not wanting to risk it, I will now go order ALL new steel plates...
Probably another week of delay for Ron Ayers to get those in for me...
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2015, 10:38:53 AM » |
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Clutch woe blow!
My Honda special tool clutch holder worked great. Removed the clutch pack from the bike.
A friend came over, hauled the clutch pack & I to the shop he works at, and we disassembled the clutch pack. One rivet was already missing. Another fell apart and out of the dampener into my hands! The basket has no damage, thank God.
Well, started to stack the new friction plates, dampener plate. When I got to the first steel plate, found it was badly burned, second also burned, third was burned too but just minor. Not wanting to risk it, I will now go order ALL new steel plates...
Probably another week of delay for Ron Ayers to get those in for me...
Check with Procaliber, they're located in Washington state and are usually cheaper than anyone else. Order $100 or more and no shipping. |
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2015, 10:02:52 PM » |
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O-B-1, how many miles on your Valk? Regular oil changes? Clutch failure surely is not a very common issue with our bikes but I did have to replace the clutch plates on one of my 1100 Aero's once; a real PIA for sure. F6Dave's "special tool", or similar would have come in handy back then as I too had to fab something a little more elaborate to get that nut off. The best to you on your rebuild!
James
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2015, 08:58:40 AM » |
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76,xxx miles... Everything regular oil changes with non-energy conserving 20W-50 (it gets hot here in Eastern Washington desert) since I bought it. The bike had 32,xxx on it, with two previous owners under its belt. It spun the driveline & pinion cup splines last year. It appeared the service shops doing my tire changes did not lubricate those after I requested it. So I do my own now.
My theory is that doing big white Smokey burnouts on a clutch with a lot of miles on it the last two veterans' day parades was a contributing factor.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2015, 07:00:10 PM » |
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My theory is that doing big white Smokey burnouts on a clutch with a lot of miles on it the last two veterans' day parades was a contributing factor.
I'd have to agree with your theory. I stopped chirping the tires, during shifting, years ago, after my first clutch job. |
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O-B-1
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2015, 11:25:07 PM » |
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Clutch went back together and into the bike fairly smoothly. I am a happy camper... Mostly. Must need to seat the plates in. Neutral is now hard to find. Sometimes a bit of drag shifting from neutral to first. All new plates in the clutch. Need top ride it MORE!  Now my intake runners are leaking at the head on three cylinders....  So, I have the parts, new Honda OEM O-rings for all six, AND new "carburetor isolators" for all six... Guess I will do that tomorrow and maybe the next day. Any tips on getting to the fasteners on the inside, in the back? Thank you in advance... Dave |
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David W. Mitchell
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2015, 03:29:30 AM » |
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1/4 inch socket set with swivel and an 8mm wrench. Good job, bet it feels good to be on the road again.
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