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« on: May 22, 2015, 04:02:34 AM » |
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 while at Myrtle Beach last week my fuel shut off valve started leaking at the drip hole in the bottom of it. Q- do we have any venders that have a rebuild kit for it. I can't get it from local Honda, they want to sell me the hole valve. or is there a better way to go.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 04:27:18 AM » |
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Its called a cover set. Should be ale to get one. Just get a pingel.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2015, 05:03:10 AM » |
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This is the cover set: 16953-mbz-b51 Here's a place to get it (your dealer can get it too): http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-16953-MBZ-B51.htmlThere's tons of posts here you can search through to help install it. It is a serious thing to fix, not only from a catching-on-fire aspect, but you don't want one of your top-ends to fill up with gas, bad things happen when try to start your bike. For gas to leak all the way to a top-end, it would have to get past one of the carburetors... I've always thought it was hard to know for sure that all your carb floats were "doing the right thing"... perhaps removing the chrome intake runners and observing that no gas drips out of any carbs is sure-fire and easy? -Mike |
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 09:16:11 AM » |
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ok thanks guys for the input, just order the cover kit. if this repair last as long as the one came on the bike I may not have to do this again. THANKS  |
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2015, 09:23:07 AM » |
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ok thanks guys for the input, just order the cover kit. if this repair last as long as the one came on the bike I may not have to do this again. THANKS Don't count on it. We've had a number of people rebuild/replace the OEM unit only to have it mess up in a matter of weeks or months. Do as suggested and get a Pingel, either manual or vacuum operated. The OEM petcock is the weakest link in the Valkyrie fuel delivery chain. |
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2015, 11:26:00 AM » |
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ok thanks guys for the input, just order the cover kit. if this repair last as long as the one came on the bike I may not have to do this again. THANKS Don't count on it. We've had a number of people rebuild/replace the OEM unit only to have it mess up in a matter of weeks or months. Do as suggested and get a Pingel, either manual or vacuum operated. The OEM petcock is the weakest link in the Valkyrie fuel delivery chain. In fairness, John, we also have a very large number of members, I being one, who have successfully installed the cover set and the OEM petcock is still operating correctly years and many, many miles down the road. My personal opinion is that when you find someone who put on the cover set and had it fail soon after you'll find someone who likely damaged (tore) the diaphragm on installation. Despite the sometimes rather pushy advocates of the Pingle I believe we have a lot more Valkyries still using the OEM vacuum petcock than we have running with the Pingle. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2015, 11:42:13 AM » |
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I'm also sure there are many of us who still have the original valve that hasn't needed fixing. Both my '97 & '00 are in that group. Just a guess, but maybe using it frequently keeps it operational? I turn my gas off when done riding for the day. It's something my Dad drilled into my head as a kid.  |
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2015, 12:04:23 PM » |
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I'm also sure there are many of us who still have the original valve that hasn't needed fixing. Both my '97 & '00 are in that group. Just a guess, but maybe using it frequently keeps it operational? I turn my gas off when done riding for the day. It's something my Dad drilled into my head as a kid. Bought my '97 new and never touch it unless it is to go to reserve or to remove the tank and no issues yet  |
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2015, 12:11:10 PM » |
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I bought my "97 Standard in 2002, it had a touch over 5K miles on it. Three years later the valve started leaking from that weep hole just like the OP. I installed the coverset, leaked stopped. Worked for a year and then the switch side of the valve wore out. I know I didn't damage anything on the installation, in fact when I got the Pingel, I took the OEM apart again and the side with the coverset parts looked great, it just didn't work great. Im glad many of you don't have the problems some of us have had. I will say again though. Once that OEM petcock needs fixing the second time its time for the trash bin with it, and I would recommend replacing with quality equipment, the OEM is not that IMHO
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2015, 01:27:03 PM » |
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OEM petcocks on three bikes and I never turn them unless I go into reserve. Rebuild or replace with new one.
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2015, 02:15:00 PM » |
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ok thanks guys for the input, just order the cover kit. if this repair last as long as the one came on the bike I may not have to do this again. THANKS Don't count on it. We've had a number of people rebuild/replace the OEM unit only to have it mess up in a matter of weeks or months. Do as suggested and get a Pingel, either manual or vacuum operated. The OEM petcock is the weakest link in the Valkyrie fuel delivery chain. In fairness, John, we also have a very large number of members, I being one, who have successfully installed the cover set and the OEM petcock is still operating correctly years and many, many miles down the road. My personal opinion is that when you find someone who put on the cover set and had it fail soon after you'll find someone who likely damaged (tore) the diaphragm on installation. Despite the sometimes rather pushy advocates of the Pingle I believe we have a lot more Valkyries still using the OEM vacuum petcock than we have running with the Pingle. Carl, I'm sure that's correct, some never have troubles, some do. I fell into the latter group. In fact I used a cover set on an OEM unit I had left over and installed it on the Valk tank I have on my GL1200 project. It didn't want to hold so I took it apart to see if I had messed up the diaphragm, found it was good. Never was able to figure out the problem so I converted it to manual, it worked fine but was inconvenient due to the location of the control shaft so went with a different type. I've had the Pingel on the Valk for quite a few years, used inconjunction with an inline filter and a DanMarc elec. shutoff with nary a problem. Guess I'll leave well enough alone.  |
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2015, 03:30:28 PM » |
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John, I have no problem with that. Pingle is a quality petcock. The non-vacuum model should not be installed without an electric shutoff valve.
I only get tired of a few people, from limited personal experience, insisting the OEM is bound to fail when so many of them are still working just fine.
My personal preference would be the OEM converted to non-vacuum with a DanMarc valve.
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2015, 05:51:13 PM » |
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To take this thread alittle further; I've got a 97 TOURER with about 44K on it, with the OEM fuel shut off. I'm the third owner and have put about 10K on it. This is the beginning of my 4th season with it. I know, I know, I've got to put alot more miles on it, and as soon as I retire, I plan to! I never touched the fuel shut off except to place it in winter storage, until this year. After reading on this website about hydrolock issues with the Oem product over the winter, I've started turning the fuel off after every use, this season. I'm wondering if shutting the fuel off after every run is the best way to go, and what are the first signs it's starting to fail? I guess I'm just really concerned about the dreaded hydrolock. Thanks!
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2015, 06:25:17 PM » |
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Doc more than one thing factors into Hydrolock it is not just Petcock failure.
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2015, 08:48:09 PM » |
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OK, Thanks!
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2015, 03:07:35 AM » |
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I'm also sure there are many of us who still have the original valve that hasn't needed fixing. Both my '97 & '00 are in that group. Just a guess, but maybe using it frequently keeps it operational? I turn my gas off when done riding for the day. It's something my Dad drilled into my head as a kid. Bought my '97 new and never touch it unless it is to go to reserve or to remove the tank and no issues yet Same with my 97. Never shut it off and use frequently for reserve. Not needed rebuild yet. |
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Dusty
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2015, 09:11:25 AM » |
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Shutting the fuel selector to off puts a spring loaded ball over the grey hole in the picture. The fuel from the tank comes into this area through the green hole in the picture when in the "ON" position or through the red hole in the " RESERVE" position. As long as the ball is sitting correctly on the rubber seal then you have a good seal. Shutting off the selector is a good first step in preventing hydro lock. Dusty  |
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