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« on: June 28, 2015, 05:41:40 PM » |
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when changing types of brake fluid what do you flush system with...thanks  |
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 06:04:30 PM » |
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Nothing. They are compatible. Except for, is it Dot 4? Only use in systems that are designed for it, which they are not.
I'm sure someone else will have something else to say about it. I would not be changing type any ways. But you always flush the system till the clean/fresh fluid comes through.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2015, 06:53:07 PM » |
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Dot 3 and 4 are compatible. Dot 5 is not. Dot 5.1 is but might not work correctly in our brakes, it is designed for ABS systems which require a different viscosity than Dot 3 and 4.
our bikes are required to have DOT 4 and come that way from the factory.
always use the highest wet boiling point in a dot 4 one can find. higher wet resists water contamination longer allowing 3-4 yrs before replacement. Dry boiling point is a concern for road race track usage, no need to worry about it for street use bike.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2015, 04:02:56 AM » |
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Been running #4 in both my bikes. No problems. Don't think I have ever owned a bike that had anything other than #4.
Checked my service manual...... "Use only Dot 4" .
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 05:31:03 AM » |
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Been running #4 in both my bikes. No problems. Don't think I have ever owned a bike that had anything other than #4.
Checked my service manual...... "Use only Dot 4" .
You are correct. My bad, meant to say DOT5 |
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 06:12:36 AM » |
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is the synthtic dot 4 comptable with plain ole dot 4 ?
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 06:26:48 AM » |
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is the synthtic dot 4 comptable with plain ole dot 4 ?
Yes, well at least the stuff I just put in last night says its compatible |
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 06:33:55 AM » |
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is the synthtic dot 4 comptable with plain ole dot 4 ?
Technically, it is ALL synthetic. There is no 'natural' source of the chemicals that comprise brake fluid. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2015, 07:20:03 AM » |
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is the synthtic dot 4 comptable with plain ole dot 4 ?
Technically, it is ALL synthetic. There is no 'natural' source of the chemicals that comprise brake fluid. +1  |
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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2015, 05:32:43 PM » |
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I would say read the bottle. If it doesn't say it specificly compatable, then I wouldn't chance it.
I'm looking for anti freeze, and don't want to buy the $50 a gal type from the MC shop. My shop of choice doesn't even have aluminum block/rads, or silicate free type anti freeze.
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2015, 06:10:32 PM » |
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No DOT 5.
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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2015, 06:12:47 PM » |
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I would say read the bottle. If it doesn't say it specificly compatable, then I wouldn't chance it.
I'm looking for anti freeze, and don't want to buy the $50 a gal type from the MC shop. My shop of choice doesn't even have aluminum block/rads, or silicate free type anti freeze.
www.evanscooling.com last time u will need to change it. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2015, 06:19:05 PM » |
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I would say read the bottle. If it doesn't say it specificly compatable, then I wouldn't chance it.
I'm looking for anti freeze, and don't want to buy the $50 a gal type from the MC shop. My shop of choice doesn't even have aluminum block/rads, or silicate free type anti freeze.
www.evanscooling.com last time u will need to change it. Granted, this was provided by a competitor, but it does show how difficult it can be to convert to this: http://www.norosion.com/evanstest.htm |
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2015, 06:41:45 PM » |
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Yeah I don't think ours are DOT4 compatible.
Look at the cap on your reservoir or you manual. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2015, 03:13:30 AM » |
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I would say read the bottle. If it doesn't say it specificly compatable, then I wouldn't chance it.
I'm looking for anti freeze, and don't want to buy the $50 a gal type from the MC shop. My shop of choice doesn't even have aluminum block/rads, or silicate free type anti freeze.
www.evanscooling.com last time u will need to change it. Granted, this was provided by a competitor, but it does show how difficult it can be to convert to this: http://www.norosion.com/evanstest.htmThanks for the site. I've had the evans installed for over 30k , never had a problem. I have a temp gauge, only see a slight temp increase. I have a dyna ignition and I have had to shut off the 10 degree advance sooner at lower rpms than before the install, it was only a few 100 rpms. its a balancing act. more heat makes more power and mpg balanced with too much and no knock, however there is no steam pockets made in the head. evans stated on their site the less heat transfer of their product compared to water, nothing is better than water except maybe some exotic $$$ chemical. I do get great mpg along with other mods done. I will look into the site/product more, could always be something better. |
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"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the goverment of any other."
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2015, 07:40:15 AM » |
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Thanks for the site. I've had the evans installed for over 30k , never had a problem. I have a temp gauge, only see a slight temp increase. I have a dyna ignition and I have had to shut off the 10 degree advance sooner at lower rpms than before the install, it was only a few 100 rpms. its a balancing act. more heat makes more power and mpg balanced with too much and no knock, however there is no steam pockets made in the head. evans stated on their site the less heat transfer of their product compared to water, nothing is better than water except maybe some exotic $$$ chemical. I do get great mpg along with other mods done.
I will look into the site/product more, could always be something better.
We're kind of guilty of a thread hijack, but I dislike the difficulty and cost to convert, more than the higher temperatures; of lesser importance to me is the effects on aluminum. Our engines aren't trapped behind a lot of metal and plastic, so get a lot of cooling from other than the radiator, except in stop/go traffic, so I'm not surprised at your results, there. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2015, 10:12:28 AM » |
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I used to road race cars, buy the best brake fluid you can afford. I ran Motul then I run Motul in all my bikes. Just suck out the old and flush with the new, top off.. Motul RBF600 DOT 4 Brake Fluid 500 ml Motul RBF 600 is a 100% synthetic fluid for hydraulic-actuated brake and clutch systems. Specificall
Motul RBF 600 far exceeds the standards of DOT 3 and DOT 4.
The RBF 600 container is filled with Nitrogen to increase shelf life and eliminate contamination whi
Extremely high dry and wet boiling points help prevent vapor lock and brake fade during hard use.
EXTREME THERMAL RESISTANCE AND STABILITY: The elevated dry boiling point of RBF 600 (312°c / 593°F  |
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