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« on: June 30, 2015, 12:20:59 PM » |
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I purchase this 1500 last year and only went for a short test drive and put it up for winter. Finally, today, I started it up. No issues. Warm up some and into first and out onto the road. Got about 1/4 mile down the road. I mean down. I am on a big hill. I pull over and go into neutral. Drop into 1st and it stalls. I repeat the process about 10-12 more times. Start 1st stall. Or even 2nd stall. Rev it up stall. I pull the clutch and roll easy in gear. I get turned around and looking up. OMG.... I am going to ride home or kill the bike trying. After 4 more attempts. it drops into 1st sweet as you please and home I go. Pull in the garage. Into neutral and drop into 1st, stall.
Embarrassed to show the extent of my ignorance,but; I got to ask: Should the bike start in gear with the kick stand down and clutch in? Because it wont. I need a green light. If that is or clue, or more on me, I dont know. Lots of gas. Engine plenty hot and choke off.
Now, I am afraid to leave the house.
So, I come inside and look up my old Valkyrie password. You know a friend is need is friend indeed.
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2015, 12:25:48 PM » |
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Kickstand must be up before you put it in gear. It's a safety precaution thing. Your bike is fine  |
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 12:27:03 PM » |
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The bike will not run with the side stand down and in gear. It should start and run in neutral with the stand down, but you must put it up before putting in gear. It's designed that way to prevent you from riding with your stand down.
D'oh! Meathead beat me to it!
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Joe Hummer
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2015, 12:27:53 PM » |
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The bike will not start (or stay running) in gear with the stand down...but should start in gear, clutch in, stand up. Check your switches (clutch, stand, neutral) to make sure they are working like they are supposed to.
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1999 Valkyrie Interstate
You pay for the whole bike, why not use it Jerry Motorman Palladino
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enginesludge
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2015, 12:32:06 PM » |
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I am an idiot! Thank you. A lifted burden off my shoulders. I should disable the kickstand switch.
Well, maybe for the best. The sky just clouded over and looks like a down pour. Tomorrow is the day.
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Joe Hummer
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2015, 12:36:04 PM » |
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I am an idiot! Thank you. A lifted burden off my shoulders. I should disable the kickstand switch.
Now...let's not get hasty here...as previously stated...this is a safety feature...if you disable your stand switch, that means you could roll down the road with your stand down...a left hand turn could hit the stand...or even damage the stand..and then what are you going to do? Leave the switch alone and just remember to either have the bike in neutral or the stand up when starting. |
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1999 Valkyrie Interstate
You pay for the whole bike, why not use it Jerry Motorman Palladino
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enginesludge
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2015, 12:44:11 PM » |
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Yea, I better hold off. Now I know, stand up. I got another unrelated question on tires. I will post it separately.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2015, 12:48:42 PM » |
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Yea, I better hold off. Now I know, stand up. I got another unrelated question on tires. I will post it separately.
Uh-oh another tire thread controversy coming up  . Might as well ask about oil while you are at it. (just kidding ask away) |
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 12:51:33 PM » |
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I am an idiot! Thank you. A lifted burden off my shoulders. I should disable the kickstand switch.
Now...let's not get hasty here...as previously stated...this is a safety feature...if you disable your stand switch, that means you could roll down the road with your stand down...a left hand turn could hit the stand...or even damage the stand..and then what are you going to do? Leave the switch alone and just remember to either have the bike in neutral or the stand up when starting. +1 with Joe. DONT DISABLE THE SWITCH. |
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2015, 02:00:25 PM » |
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I would still say check the clutch switch also......
And do not disable the kickstand one...LOL
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2015, 02:12:37 PM » |
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It's very "rookie" to be starting the engine while the transmission is in gear.
The practice is hard on the engine start system when compared to starting
the engine with the transmission in neutral.
Naturally this would not apply to those times when the engine dies while
(for instance) at a traffic light.
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enginesludge
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2015, 02:23:47 PM » |
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It's very "rookie" to be starting the engine while the transmission is in gear.
The practice is hard on the engine start system when compared to starting
the engine with the transmission in neutral.
Naturally this would not apply to those times when the engine dies while
(for instance) at a traffic light.
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I understand what you are saying. The real problem and full story is that i was going to pull up a few feet and stop again. The kick stand was down and the engine cut-out when I dropped into 1st. My error. The more I tried to get going the more flustered I became. I only wanted to start up in gear because I became confused about why all this was happening. later, on one of my subsequent attempt, apparently the stand was up. Now back home, I put all the pieces together. All I can say is, I want all my bikes to work the same. if this is normal, great. I just need to learn. |
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2015, 02:47:08 PM » |
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It's very "rookie" to be starting the engine while the transmission is in gear.
The practice is hard on the engine start system when compared to starting
the engine with the transmission in neutral.
Naturally this would not apply to those times when the engine dies while
(for instance) at a traffic light.
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I understand what you are saying. The real problem and full story is that i was going to pull up a few feet and stop again. The kick stand was down and the engine cut-out when I dropped into 1st. My error. The more I tried to get going the more flustered I became. I only wanted to start up in gear because I became confused about why all this was happening. later, on one of my subsequent attempt, apparently the stand was up. Now back home, I put all the pieces together. All I can say is, I want all my bikes to work the same. if this is normal, great. I just need to learn. You are fine. I start mine in gear all the time. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2015, 03:19:25 PM » |
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I just went and checked my H-D Sporster, year 2000. No switch on the kick stand. I can start and drop into first and roll up a few feet in the garage - kick stand DOWN. The Valkyrie is a 1998, so; this is not some government mandated safety. They should all be the same. Well, that is my opinion anyway.
Granted I am old and can use all the safety I can get, but; not been a problem with the sporster and what if the switch goes bad? Anyway, I do appreciate the help and really should not be stuck on the side of the road for that kind of pilot error. I dont blame Honda for that.
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Gryphon Rider
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2015, 03:26:40 PM » |
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I just went and checked my H-D Sporster, year 2000. No switch on the kick stand. I can start and drop into first and roll up a few feet in the garage - kick stand DOWN. The Valkyrie is a 1998, so; this is not some government mandated safety. They should all be the same. Well, that is my opinion anyway.
Granted I am old and can use all the safety I can get, but; not been a problem with the sporster and what if the switch goes bad? Anyway, I do appreciate the help and really should not be stuck on the side of the road for that kind of pilot error.
You could come up with a kit to add switches to your Harleys, then sell it to other HD owners so they can have the warm feeling of having Honda-inspired technology on their bikes. |
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enginesludge
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2015, 04:04:43 PM » |
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I just went and checked my H-D Sporster, year 2000. No switch on the kick stand. I can start and drop into first and roll up a few feet in the garage - kick stand DOWN. The Valkyrie is a 1998, so; this is not some government mandated safety. They should all be the same. Well, that is my opinion anyway.
Granted I am old and can use all the safety I can get, but; not been a problem with the sporster and what if the switch goes bad? Anyway, I do appreciate the help and really should not be stuck on the side of the road for that kind of pilot error.
You could come up with a kit to add switches to your Harleys, then sell it to other HD owners so they can have the warm feeling of having Honda-inspired technology on their bikes. That is one option   |
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Steve K (IA)
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2015, 10:39:50 AM » |
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Having almost flipped myself on my old Gold Wing by taking off with the stand down, I'm thankful for the kickstand switch. Around early to mid '90's, I had a full custom chopper. Of course no kickstand switch. Only forgot to put it up once. First left turn, kickstand caught and the bike jumped. Holy CRAP!  |
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2015, 05:33:27 PM » |
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A Harley totaled my bike a couple of years ago. Older gentleman, was going to warm up his bike before riding home, and started it on the side stand, and WASN'T SITTING ON THE BIKE! He hit the starter and that thing started and dragged him across the parking lot and crashed into the rear end of my Phat Gurl. Trunk, bags, bag rails, trunk mounts, rear fender, and license plate/turn signal were trashed. Please leave the side stand switch intact. It just might save you some grief.  Hay  Jimmyt |
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