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Tundra
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2014 Valkyrie 1800

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« on: July 12, 2015, 05:29:58 AM »

  Pappy I found these outboards in a antique consignment mall in Ocala. The green one runs. The other had a tag on the says "engine stuck" must be a nautical term  I don't know if they are worth anything or desirable?
  I will be going back to pick up a dining table made from recycled barn wood. If your interested I can get more info for you.



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Pappy!
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2015, 07:38:20 AM »

The green one is a "JW" (with a number behind that) 3hp somewhere around 1953-1955. Usually they are excellent runners and hard to kill. If the powerhead is in good shape internally they can be made to idle slow enough to where you can almost count the turns.
The other one is a TD (again with a number following that) which is a (D)irect drive 5hp of around the same or probably earlier vintage.
"Stuck" is a term used when the pistons are stuck in the cylinders. Usually just from non-usage for decades. Since most of those old engines are non-jeweled (the crank and rods run on bushings instead of needle bearings), as long as you take some care in freeing the pistons you don't usually have to do much more to get them to run.
I have several 3hp engines, including one that folds up when you are done using it,  in stock these days.....why, I don't know.
Also have a TN28 which was the last year of that series engine (the non green one in the picture). In this case the "N" part designates that the engine has neutral as well as forward gear. More desirable. Mine all run although the TN28 has not been run on a boat, just a test tank.

Here is a video of a TN-28 on the water. At the end of it he shows how slow these things are capable of running. Modern counterparts could not duplicate that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPvKrahvyq0
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Jerry & Sherry Sheffer

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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2015, 12:34:42 PM »

I thought he was moving faster than 9mph.  Must be the camera angle.   That is way cool and the sound was perfect.
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John Schmidt
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De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2015, 07:17:48 AM »

I always loved tinkering with old stuff like that. I recall one summer a couple buddies and I found this old 1930's vintage outboard and worked at until we got it running. Don't recall the brand or year, but could make out something that said 193X(?)....pretty rough shape externally. We messed with it for a few days, had it mounted in a 50 gal. barrel full of water, all of a sudden it started much to our amazement. I think our right arms were all a couple inches longer by then. It had a tank on it that wrapped around the top and was kinda square, and I seem to recall the cylinders were out in the open. Gave us something to do during the summer, kept us out of trouble for at least a week.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2015, 08:41:06 PM »

John, there is a meet over in Orlando next Saturday. Meet will be in the Sand Lake area if you are interested.
This is one I have never been to but will be going this time. A new fellow has taken the meet over and I would like to try and support him in his first attempt at putting on a meet. The other reason is that I have an engine being delivered that I bought a couple weeks ago.
Can't tell you that there will be a bunch there to see. Should be a relaxed time though.
Being a gear head you would be well received and most welcome. If interested I will post the address.

Here ya' go.
7549 Sandstone Drive, Orlando, 32836
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