Never was much of a fan of Ben & Jerry's ice cream

[stormrider]

Seemed over priced to me and now I know I will definitly never buy there product.

http://www.slashfood.com/2009/09/01/ben-and-jerrys-celebrates-gay-marriage-in-vermont/?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl2|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slashfood.com%2F2009%2F09%2F01%2Fben-and-jerrys-celebrates-gay-marriage-in-vermont%2F

Maybe should be "Fudge Packers"

[HotRod]

I've never bought it and never will.

[POPS 57]

I voted to leave the politics out of ice cream. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. 

[Puffs Daddy]

I voted to leave the politics out of ice cream. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. 

What an original comment.

[Momz]

Who really cares if Ben loves Jerry?
Are you worried about were the fudge comes from?

All the remaining Automobile companies and suppliers in Detroit recognize alternative lifestyles and will not discriminate against those individuals.

Our constitution does not condone discrimination on the basis of sexual preferences.

Does your faith want you to react badly towards Gay people, or does it teach you to love your neighbor?

[Serk]

This issue doesn't bother me at all, but I quit giving any money to Ben & Jerry's years ago for a totally different issue... That company gives lots of money to anti-gun causes...

[Sharkey]

Who really cares if Ben loves Jerry?
Are you worried about were the fudge comes from?

All the remaining Automobile companies and suppliers in Detroit recognize alternative lifestyles and will not discriminate against those individuals.

Our constitution does not condone discrimination on the basis of sexual preferences.

Does your faith want you to react badly towards Gay people, or does it teach you to love your neighbor?

I could care less what they do, but when they try to tell my children via a liberal hollywood that its normal and acceptable to be gay I have a problem. I am not a religious person or a right wing nut. I just cant stand to see two dudes swapping spit in public, it make me want to puke. Rightwing Biblethumping Homophobe Sharkey 

[Big Rig]

Who really cares if Ben loves Jerry?
Are you worried about were the fudge comes from?

All the remaining Automobile companies and suppliers in Detroit recognize alternative lifestyles and will not discriminate against those individuals.

Our constitution does not condone discrimination on the basis of sexual preferences.

Does your faith want you to react badly towards Gay people, or does it teach you to love your neighbor?

I could care less what they do, but when they try to tell my children via a liberal hollywood that its normal and acceptable to be gay I have a problem. I am not a religious person or a right wing nut. I just cant stand to see two dudes swapping spit in public, it make me want to puke. Rightwing Biblethumping Homophobe Sharkey 

 :cooldude:ditto...

[FLAVALK]

I wrote em off years ago for a similar reason.

[Doc Moose]

"Same-sex marriage is legal in Vermont as of today and to celebrate, Ben & Jerry's has renamed its Chubby Hubby ice cream flavor "Hubby Hubby" for the month."

Conan O'Brien had a  good comment about it last night.  He stated that the new Hubby Hubby flavor is identical to the old Chubby Hubby, except it has twice the nuts....   

[RoadKill]

Should we even care? I just want the Gov't to stay out of all Marriage. It wouldnt be taking up so many dollars and so much space if there was no marriage penalty or tax breaks associated with it. Separate church and state and let marriage be between you and your god,Adam an Steve's god , or me and my god. we all probably believe a little different and it is our right to discuss it and agree or disagree.But What does ANY marriage have to do with politics? I'm not stating I'm for nor against it..I just think it should be discussed in forums and blogs or over a cup of coffee but it's NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE! there are bigger fish to fry than who's pokin who and where! 

[Varmintmist]

I could care less what they do, but when they try to tell my children via a liberal hollywood that its normal and acceptable to be gay I have a problem. I am not a religious person or a right wing nut. I just cant stand to see two dudes swapping spit in public, it make me want to puke. Rightwing Biblethumping Homophobe Sharkey 

Cant stand to see gay couples, unless the chicks are smokin. 

Sharkey is right. This has nothing to do with being a homosexual, and everything to do with mainstreaming a behavior. A dog is not a cat by definition, 2 rump rangers cannot marry because marrage is between persons of opposite sex, by definition. I have a coworker who plays for the other team. I dont care. He doesnt bring it up, no one eles brings it up, no one has a hard time with it, it isnt really important. The ones who have to be 200% public with it are the ones who cause the problems for people like him.

They want to live together, fine. Heck there are benifits.  Why do you think most gay males are wealthy? With 2 of them, there are still only 6 pair of shoes in the house. Both understand that sitting at home CAN BE a vacation. Scratching oneself would be understood by the partner. Bothe people would be able to comprehend the hinge function of a toilet seat. The furniture stays in the same place until it is retired, then its replacement goes in the same area that the old one came out of.
If it wasnt for the whole guys butt thing...........

I wont buy Ben and Jerrys because I wont support folks who support causes that are looking to use OPM, other peoples money, with my discresonary spending. I dont have to buy their ice cream.

I am happy to live in a country where 2 guys can build a company and spend their money to support whatever they wish. Of course if they had the country they now push for, they wouldnt have been able to build a business to the level they have, or spend their money to support whatever they want.

[F6CTrider]

Should we even care? I just want the Gov't to stay out of all Marriage. It wouldnt be taking up so many dollars and so much space if there was no marriage penalty or tax breaks associated with it. Separate church and state and let marriage be between you and your god,Adam an Steve's god , or me and my god. we all probably believe a little different and it is our right to discuss it and agree or disagree.But What does ANY marriage have to do with politics? I'm not stating I'm for nor against it..I just think it should be discussed in forums and blogs or over a cup of coffee but it's NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE! there are bigger fish to fry than who's pokin who and where! 

Ditto from my perspective.  I follow a more libertarian slant and would prefer the government shrink and stay out of a lot of things.  We need to protect ourselves from the tyranny of the majority.  Who knows, eventually you will likely be part of some minority that gets marginalized by the majority.  Tell the majority to stay out of other peoples business.  We need to embrace diversity and the free expression of ideas.  Regardless if it is gay people being judged as unacceptable, or conservative dissenters being labeled as racist or nazis, it is wrong.  The lack of tolerance troubles me. 
I have experienced this both ways.  I belong to a very liberal congregation, have several gay friends and have marched with them.  Well I am a 6'5" confident heterosexual, and nobody has ever tried to "recruit" me.  Anyway, what an eye opener.  There were some real a__holes out there.  My wife's calmer head prevailed and there was no blood shed. 
Contrast this to having a dinner party with a room full of liberal democrats and expressing your doubts about global warming being caused exclusively by american use of fossil fuels.  You would have thought I was clubbing a baby seal to death on the living room carpet. 
So...the intolerant boycott B&J for their acceptance of gay marriage, and the intolerant boycott Whole Foods because the CEO has pointed to a better health care solution. 
 
I think I will ride the valk over to whole foods and buy some ice cream. 
Become a minority voice and support one.

[dbundric]

Wow, equal rights AND gun control. I don't even eat ice cream, but I think I'll have to buy a gallon of B & J just for doing the right thing! (Will this get me beaten up at the next Valk ralley?)

[Puffs Daddy]

Wow, equal rights AND gun control. I don't even eat ice cream, but I think I'll have to buy a gallon of B & J just for doing the right thing! (Will this get me beaten up at the next Valk ralley?)

Not by me.

[Varmintmist]

So...the intolerant boycott B&J for their acceptance of gay marriage, and the intolerant boycott Whole Foods because the CEO has pointed to a better health care solution.

Not intolerance, free choice. B&J's has every right to support anything they want to. I have every right to buy Breyers because I dont care to support their anti american activities. Such as anti firearms, pro distribution of OPM, in his words

Cohen leads a group called Business Leaders for Sensible Budget Priorities, whose chief goal is to "change US budget priorities to reflect a national commitment to education, healthcare, energy independence, job training and deficit reduction -- at no additional taxpayer expense -- by eliminating funding for unneeded Cold War era weapons systems."

None of which the Govt has any reason being involved in, EXCEPT the budge and national security. Their promotion of warping the language to mainstream a behavior is just another sales tool. Their hypocrasy is hard to believe, I checked it out for kicks when they went up against Hagen Daas because I knew the story behind Hagen Daas. Check this out, hippie is only a cover. http://www.jonentine.com/articles/evil_empire.htm B&J's markets to old hippies and fools who want to feel good about not supporting "the corporations".

BTW, there is no such thing as gay marriage. You can call it a union, a confab a agreement, whatever but you cannot "marry" a person of the same sex no more than you can "marry" a moose, providing you are not already a moose, of the opposite sex.

[Puffs Daddy]

BTW, there is no such thing as gay marriage. You can call it a union, a confab a agreement, whatever but you cannot "marry" a person of the same sex no more than you can "marry" a moose, providing you are not already a moose, of the opposite sex.

Sorry, but the term "marriage" is no more a term whose meaning is set in granite than any other word.

[fiddle mike]

  Heck, the Bluebell creamery is just up the road, in Brenham, TX.  That's the only reason I need to "boycott" Ben and Jerry's.

Marriage is a legal contract.  All Americans should have equal access to the law.  
If your church doctrine views homosexuality as a sin, then gay couples are probably not going to try to get married there, to begin with.  

There was a time when people of different races could not be married.  They could live in sin, but they could not be married any more than they could marry a moose. 
A  friend returned to the states after serving in Europe (1960s) to find that his marriage had been voided by the state due to his being half American Indian.  I think God didn't go for that, then.

[POPS 57]

So your saying that we can't marry a moose. 

[fiddle mike]

So your saying that we can't marry a moose.  

That is correct, in Texas, at least, since a birth certificate is required to obtain a marriage license.
On the other hand, if you and the moose present yourselves as a married couple, or allow others to believe you're married, then  the state views your arrangement as a common law marriage, provided, of course, that you are of different genders (and not trans sexual), otherwise, you have to settle for a "civil union".

At least, that's what my neighbor, "Chicken Man" Mayfield, tells me.

[marc]

I just love homophobes. It seems funny that gun nuts and homophobia seem to run together. I'm glad to see that there are such people out there defending our "American" way of life. Keep up the good work and don't let knowledge or compassion intrude on your point or view. 

[fiddle mike]

I just love homophobes. It seems funny that gun nuts and homophobia seem to run together. 

Could that possibly be because homosexuals tend to support the dismantling of the Constitution including the right to keep arms as protection against the government?

[SANDMAN5]

knowledge or compassion

Knowledge? How's this.."Lay not one man to another, as with a woman.
It is an abominatiion before the Lord". Pretty well sums it up. (Leviticus, I think)
Compassion? Depends on how you're using the term. If you mean we should
let them do what they want because we feel sorry for them...uh....no. If you
meant it in some other context you'll have to explain.

[Varmintmist]

I'm not a homophobe, I am much worse. I am from the church of dont care.

I don't care. Really, I dont care at all. You can do what you want to. You want to engage in behavior that is proven to be the #1 spreader of HIV, go for it. Seriously I couldnt care less. Learning about your lifestyle has never entered my mind as a interesting sideline to anything. Me-> dont care.

Until you start fabricating stuff.

You just dont get to redefine things so you "feel" normal. That is all this is. A group of people who want to "feel" mainstream and are out to change what everyone else is allowed to think so they can "feel" good. Gays have the same rights to marry as anyone else. If you want to marry, find a person of the opposite sex and do so. I can tell you that a unmarried straight couple cannot even get civil union benifits IAW most companies, so does that mean if they just want to live together, everyone else is wrong and now the companies have to start covering every live in?

You try to tell me that a dog is a cat and I have to accept your line of thinking or I am evil. I reserve the right to fly the BS flag. I reserve the right NOT to accept your definition of cat if it includes elements of the canine group. You may get your German Shepard registered as a cat in MA, but it still aint a cat even if you name it Felix.

Ben and Jerry are just marketing to their customers, the only social concerns they tend to is Ben and Jerry.

[jbooth2099]

Unless Obama finds a way to tax it, I'm dedicated to Chunky Monkey...........hmmmmmmmmmm

JB

[fiddle mike]

knowledge or compassion

Knowledge? How's this.."Lay not one man to another, as with a woman.
It is an abominatiion before the Lord". Pretty well sums it up. (Leviticus, I think)
Compassion? Depends on how you're using the term. If you mean we should
let them do what they want because we feel sorry for them...uh....no. If you
meant it in some other context you'll have to explain.

Perhaps a better explanation would be  how the Constitution forbids the establishment of an official religion. Not being Jewish, I could give a flip about Leviticus.
There are plenty of theocracies out there without a damn thing to recommend them, in my book

[HotRod]

I could care less what they do, but when they try to tell my children via a liberal hollywood that its normal and acceptable to be gay I have a problem. I am not a religious person or a right wing nut. I just cant stand to see two dudes swapping spit in public, it make me want to puke. Rightwing Biblethumping Homophobe Sharkey 

Cant stand to see gay couples, unless the chicks are smokin. 

Sharkey is right. This has nothing to do with being a homosexual, and everything to do with mainstreaming a behavior. A dog is not a cat by definition, 2 rump rangers cannot marry because marrage is between persons of opposite sex, by definition. I have a coworker who plays for the other team. I dont care. He doesnt bring it up, no one eles brings it up, no one has a hard time with it, it isnt really important. The ones who have to be 200% public with it are the ones who cause the problems for people like him.

They want to live together, fine. Heck there are benifits.  Why do you think most gay males are wealthy? With 2 of them, there are still only 6 pair of shoes in the house. Both understand that sitting at home CAN BE a vacation. Scratching oneself would be understood by the partner. Bothe people would be able to comprehend the hinge function of a toilet seat. The furniture stays in the same place until it is retired, then its replacement goes in the same area that the old one came out of.
If it wasnt for the whole guys butt thing...........

I wont buy Ben and Jerrys because I wont support folks who support causes that are looking to use OPM, other peoples money, with my discresonary spending. I dont have to buy their ice cream.

I am happy to live in a country where 2 guys can build a company and spend their money to support whatever they wish. Of course if they had the country they now push for, they wouldnt have been able to build a business to the level they have, or spend their money to support whatever they want.

Well said.

[QOTFU]

"Same-sex marriage is legal in Vermont as of today and to celebrate, Ben & Jerry's has renamed its Chubby Hubby ice cream flavor "Hubby Hubby" for the month."

Conan O'Brien had a  good comment about it last night.  He stated that the new Hubby Hubby flavor is identical to the old Chubby Hubby, except it has twice the nuts....   

Is it packed with fudge?

[Stanley Steamer]

"Same-sex marriage is legal in Vermont as of today and to celebrate, Ben & Jerry's has renamed its Chubby Hubby ice cream flavor "Hubby Hubby" for the month."

Conan O'Brien had a  good comment about it last night.  He stated that the new Hubby Hubby flavor is identical to the old Chubby Hubby, except it has twice the nuts....    

Is it packed with fudge?

you made ME blush!!!..... ... ....

[Psychotic Bovine]

I just love homophobes. It seems funny that gun nuts and homophobia seem to run together. I'm glad to see that there are such people out there defending our "American" way of life. Keep up the good work and don't let knowledge or compassion intrude on your point or view. 

I just love people who hide behind made-up nonsensical words to insult others who have a different opinion than themselves.

[SANDMAN5]

Not being Jewish, I could give a flip about Leviticus.

Me too also is not Jewish. BTW, it's also mentioned in the New Testament, Romans, I believe;
men forsaking women to do that which is unseemly. If you want to be concerned more about
following the Constitution than the Bible, that's completely your choice. I choose to put God's
word ahead of man's word EVERY time. No use in us arguing about it since we're both (mostly,
at least) on the same side.

[HotRod]

"Same-sex marriage is legal in Vermont as of today and to celebrate, Ben & Jerry's has renamed its Chubby Hubby ice cream flavor "Hubby Hubby" for the month."

Conan O'Brien had a  good comment about it last night.  He stated that the new Hubby Hubby flavor is identical to the old Chubby Hubby, except it has twice the nuts....   

Is it packed with fudge?

NO,just double the nuts!

[RoadKill]

Lots of humorous responses and very little name calling...I Like to see that!  this is a discussion and every one has an opinion.I doubt many of us agree. that being said I think quoting scripture is asking for trouble because many might subscribe to a different version than you...ADAM AND STEVE SURE DO! ! ! LOL   Dont tell any one WHAT to believe but feel free to tell what YOU believe. As far as guns and democrat VS republican... What does that have to do with fudge packers and lickalotapus types?

[SANDMAN5]

Yeah, it's fun as long as nobody gets too personal. But I quote scripture because
that's what I base my life on. If somebody subscribes to something different I'll
be glad to discuss it with them.

[RoadKill]

I knew you would hear me,BashfullBob. that is just the kind of good man I knew you were...we only disagree SLIGHTLY and a good neighbor you are ! 

[Hellcat]

I knocked out a whole pint of Phish Food tonight. I did not taste any politics nor any human rights issues. Just lots of chocolate and marshmallowy goodness.

[Varmintmist]

I just love homophobes. It seems funny that gun nuts and homophobia seem to run together. I'm glad to see that there are such people out there defending our "American" way of life. Keep up the good work and don't let knowledge or compassion intrude on your point or view.  

Trying to answer the question between the snark....

I was thinking about this and the answer is simple. The people who wish to impose their views and restrict our rights are on the same side.  The play book is the same, change the meaning of the word and demonize those who disagree. Words mean things. When you change the word, you can make it anything you want it to be.

 Ex. Until 1990 there was no such thing as a "assault weapon" There were assault rifles, medium powered rifles that fired semi or full auto through the use of a selector switch. ie, a selectable machine gun. Not legal to own without some serious cash, licesnes, and tax stamp. Change the name a bit to assault weapons, make it any rifle that looks scary, demonize the people who know that you are lying, get CBS to do specials that are complete fabrications, and poof, you get a open ended ban scary guns law. You could still own a machine gun, with some serious cash, licesnes, and tax stamp even if it still looked scary.

"Cop killer bullets" that slide through kevlar. There is no such thing. It is and was a complete fabrication that almost got all hunting ammunition banned. You can find video of Chuck Schumer lying his tail off to any camera that was turned on though. Everyone who said "Huh? What the heck are you talking about? There is no such thing." was a gun nut, anti cop skinhead. Ever see Lethal Weapon 2 (?) where ole Mel punches 30 holes from a 20 round stick magazine of 9 mil Cop Killers (OOOOHHHH) through a payloader bucket?

OH OH, another one. The "high cap magazine ban" There is a real peice of garbage. That was because Chuck Schumer and Handgun control Inc, (changed to Brady campain to prevent gun violence, then center to prevent handgun violence, now Brady center to prevent gun violence, stay ahead of the lawsuits there folks) deemed the 9mm a brand new super cartridge, even though it rivals the 45ACP in age, 100 years old ish. They hung their hat on that one and suddenly cops with 357 Magnums were under gunned and no one needed one of these new 10 round and over magazines. PS, Browning made a 9mm in 1937 that held 14 rounds.

It is really no different than this debate. To make it so gays feel good, you have to change the language to something that it isnt. Keep repeating it and demonizing those who are going to stand there and say "Umm, that isnt the correct meaning of the word and it cant be used like that".

[Doc Moose]

WOW!  This is quite a thread, spanning numerous topics of quasi controversial topics.  And I agree that it has been somewhat civil.

BUT

 

This crack about someone marrying a Moose?  No self respecting Moose would dare marry out side of their species (some may have tried it, but they all come back to the fold.)  At Moosesylvania University, morals and family values are taught in high tradition (along with anti hunting tactics).
 
Once you go Moose, you never let loose!

PS: Moose Tracks ain't bad either.....