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« on: August 03, 2015, 09:39:19 AM » |
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Good news it seems as that one of the objections of the factory windshield was the lean was not enough so it was not on the same slant as the fork. The easy mod is the top arm has enough metal to drill another hole closer to the round portion of the arm. This allows the top of the windshield to angle back to an angle almost perfect with the forks. Not to mention for those who like to look over the top of the windshield actually makes that easier. It takes no time at all to do either, and if you just grind off the flange on one side of the nut even with the face of one of the flats of the nut it fits perfectly just tightening to the top where the flat and round part meet. Pic will follow.
I liked everything about the windshield but just wished it was not so upright now I got my wish.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 09:46:11 AM » |
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I was wondering if that would help, I thought of a small metal extension to push the bottom out however I haven't seen the stock tall in person so it is just a thought. How is the buffeting?
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 10:13:55 AM » |
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I have not really had the thing on the hwy yet but at 50 it seems smoother.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 04:00:20 PM » |
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I have the factory windshield. It is mounted differently than what y'all are talking about, but as far as the angle goes, I think it turns the OEM windshield from awful to awesome... I like it as much or maybe even more than my OEM Tourer shield... very low buffeting... mine is also cut off about 2 inches...  -Mike |
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Robert
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 06:53:26 PM » |
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I have the factory windshield. It is mounted differently than what
y'all are talking about, but as far as the angle goes, I think it
turns the OEM windshield from awful to awesome... I like it as
much or maybe even more than my OEM Tourer shield... very
low buffeting... mine is also cut off about 2 inches...
-Mike
Looks good, I tried the hwy tonight with the shield in a strong head wind and the buffeting was less. I like the new position for looks and for comfort in the wind. |
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 08:29:32 PM » |
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I have the factory windshield. It is mounted differently than what y'all are talking about, but as far as the angle goes, I think it turns the OEM windshield from awful to awesome... I like it as much or maybe even more than my OEM Tourer shield... very low buffeting... mine is also cut off about 2 inches... -Mike Can you please give us a pic of the hardware? |
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2015, 12:22:56 AM » |
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I have the factory windshield. It is mounted differently than what y'all are talking about, but as far as the angle goes, I think it turns the OEM windshield from awful to awesome... I like it as much or maybe even more than my OEM Tourer shield... very low buffeting... mine is also cut off about 2 inches... -Mike Very nice look! Steve |
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2015, 02:36:25 AM » |
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This is before I cut the windshield, and before I tried a million adjustments to the shield and the brackets...  Two sets of Memphis Shades hardware, OEM shield and original Valkyrie handlebars... -Mike |
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2015, 04:44:34 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 05:03:41 AM » |
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Yes, those are the ones... I have no idea if they would work with the normal handlebars and no reason to believe that it is better than Robert's mod, which does work with the normal handlebars. -Mike "a pox on the normal handlebars..." |
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2015, 05:29:27 AM » |
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OK why are some so adamant at not looking through the windshield? I like the extra protection and can look over the top to see ahead. What are the reasons?
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2015, 05:54:29 AM » |
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OK why are some so adamant at not looking through the windshield? I like the extra protection and can look over the top to see ahead. What are the reasons?
I had a nice new OEM windshield on my original Valkyrie, and I loved looking through it, until the first time I got caught out on a NC mountain back-road in the rain... bug/mud/rain stained I could no longer see through it and had to "sit funny" to see over it, it was a long trip down the hill to Lenoir... -Mike |
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2015, 07:51:37 AM » |
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OK why are some so adamant at not looking through the windshield? I like the extra protection and can look over the top to see ahead. What are the reasons?
I had a nice new OEM windshield on my original Valkyrie, and I loved looking through it, until the first time I got caught out on a NC mountain back-road in the rain... bug/mud/rain stained I could no longer see through it and ha, it was a long trip down the hill to Lenoir... -Mike Wow this could be a thread all on its own. My 00 interstate had a show-chrome windshield and my 99 interstate had a tall OEM windshield, both I would have to sit funny to see over it and only once did I experience one of our Florida mega hard white wash rains (so hard and drops so big you cant see anything) and I had to look over the top, but then I had to pop my full face shield up then I had to pop up the inner sun shield - then my contact lenses started to float!!!!  Lucky we were almost home by then. Hit the garage door opener pulled in, shut the door and the wife and I left our clothes (not one dry spot) in the garage. Our Shadow tourer I could see over. I like both ways but lean towards taller so I can keep the full face shield up and get air using the inner half shield for eye protection. The windshield on the 2014 will be a study in progress for a long time with fabrication done like others until I hit the sweet spot. I want no buffeting especially at high speeds first! the rest does not matter. Everyone says GOOD LUCK ON THAT ONE  |
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2015, 08:00:36 AM » |
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My X-12 face shield gets fogged up in certain bad conditions, but
other than that I continue to be able to see "good enough" in the
rain... if I pulled my face shield up, my sunglasses would get wet
and I'd have to take them off... bare eyes into the rain, and I'd
have to pull off..
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Robert
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2015, 06:00:18 PM » |
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Finally got around to posting the mod I did on the windshield to get it to lay back a bit more to the angle of the front forks. What the pic does not show is the nut has a flat side where its closest to the round part of the top bracket. This allows it to come back as far as possible. Basically took the shoulder off the nut. Doesn't look like much but it was actually enough and after driving a bit there is a difference enough to make it worth it if not for looks alone.  |
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2015, 06:07:35 PM » |
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Do you feel you can add a small link to the bottom to kick it out a tad??? Just wondering
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2015, 06:24:56 PM » |
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Do you feel you can add a small link to the bottom to kick it out a tad??? Just wondering
Don't know if I would do that considering it will have no up and down support from an extension bracket. But if you only want a bit more how about getting some rubber washers and putting them in between the windshield and the bracket that holds it, basically doubling or tripling the thickness of the washer that is already there. In the pic above is the upper windshield bracket that fastens the windshield to the bracket I am speaking of the lower one. |
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2015, 03:52:52 PM » |
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I added a bracket on the lower connection point to push out the bottom of the windshield. The angle matches the fork angle pretty well now. I just used the flat bracket that came with a "U" bolt from Home Depot, then painted it black to match. I don't remember the exact length, but it was somewhere around 2.5 inches or 3 inches, center-to-center. If anyone needs to know for sure, let me know and I'll measure it. The buffeting is a lot less. There is a thread about this early on in the Valkyrieforum.   |
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2015, 08:12:10 PM » |
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I am going to need the 'home depot' solution. Can you please post the measurement?
Questions for Dark Knight about the saddle bags... Are they custom made or stock? Can you post some pictures showing the space of the saddle bag and also one looking from the back? I want to see how these are aligned with the tail indicator lights.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2015, 09:32:45 PM » |
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This is before I cut the windshield, and before I tried a million adjustments to the shield and the brackets... Two sets of Memphis Shades hardware, OEM shield and original Valkyrie handlebars... -Mike Looks like Mike has the ability to close the gap between the bottom of the windshield and the top of the thumbnail headlight cover? I wonder if closing this gap eliminates the buffeting completely? I'm sure I have the same ability with the Secdem Windshild and I already have a nice laid back angle but I still have just a pinch of buffeting at 80. Robert, I noticed when ordering the Secdem windshield made for the new Valk that there was taller sizes if you want your eyes to stay behind the windshield. Maybe Ledany could shed some light here. |
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2015, 09:40:30 PM » |
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I added a bracket on the lower connection point to push out the bottom of the windshield. The angle matches the fork angle pretty well now. I just used the flat bracket that came with a "U" bolt from Home Depot, then painted it black to match. I don't remember the exact length, but it was somewhere around 2.5 inches or 3 inches, center-to-center. If anyone needs to know for sure, let me know and I'll measure it. The buffeting is a lot less. There is a thread about this early on in the Valkyrieforum. Yep a bracket, do you think it could be adjusted down closing the gap between the bottom of the windshield and the headlight thumbnail cover? Also, side thought. Your blue is so deep and so rich almost cobalt! Looks awesome. The early Valk ads that I remember we're all the Blue Model and the blue looked pale almost pastel. Who took the photos Honda? Does anyone else think the same? |
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2015, 04:26:28 AM » |
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Looks like Mike has the ability to close the gap between the bottom of the windshield and the top of the thumbnail headlight cover? I wonder if closing this gap eliminates the buffeting completely?That picture was right after I first put the OEM-shield/Memphis-shades-hardware/1500-Valkyrie combination on the bike. I've changed the angle a bunch of times, cut an inch off the shield twice and generally fiddled with everything about the angle and orientation of the brackets. The two sets of brackets are very solid and "infinitely" adjustable. The gap seems irrelevant to buffeting with my setup, I think I have less buffeting now than on my Tourer, especially when following a mac-truck on the highway. Tourers are pretty rock solid. These pictures are current - I haven't changed anything in a long time. My speedo-pod is not mounted the normal way so don't judge the angle of the shield based on how your speedo-pod looks...  -Mike
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2015, 06:16:48 AM » |
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Looks like Mike has the ability to close the gap between the bottom of the windshield and the top of the thumbnail headlight cover? I wonder if closing this gap eliminates the buffeting completely?That picture was right after I first put the OEM-shield/Memphis-shades-hardware/1500-Valkyrie combination on the bike. I've changed the angle a bunch of times, cut an inch off the shield twice and generally fiddled with everything about the angle and orientation of the brackets. The two sets of brackets are very solid and "infinitely" adjustable. The gap seems irrelevant to buffeting with my setup, I think I have less buffeting now than on my Tourer, especially when following a mac-truck on the highway. Tourers are pretty rock solid. These pictures are current - I haven't changed anything in a long time. My speedo-pod is not mounted the normal way so don't judge the angle of the shield based on how your speedo-pod looks... -Mike I guess what I am used to is both of my interstates that literally had 0 buffeting, 0!!!! |
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2015, 08:59:03 AM » |
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I just measured the bracket. It has a 1.5-inch center-to-center distance.
The added airflow below the windshield seemed to reduce buffeting a lot.
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2015, 09:04:36 AM » |
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They are the Honda factory saddlebags. Picture below. This is the standard Metallic Blue 2014 color. Taken outside with my iPhone 5S.  |
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2015, 09:49:25 PM » |
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Homedepot U bolt solution is nice. Soon will post some pictures.
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2015, 10:00:29 PM » |
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« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2015, 05:23:27 PM » |
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That looks like it matches the fork angle pretty well.
Did you notice any reduced buffeting?
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« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2015, 08:21:11 PM » |
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I didn't get a chance to ride yet. This Saturday for sure.
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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2015, 11:38:55 PM » |
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No more buffering after the angle modification for the windshield. Divided highway or Freeway...felt nice and smooth.
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« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2015, 02:58:56 AM » |
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No more buffering after the angle modification for the windshield. Divided highway or Freeway...felt nice and smooth.
Why? Why? Why did they mount that thing like a giant billboard, straight up and down? Tilting the windshield makes the bike so much better... -Mike |
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« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2015, 04:00:07 AM » |
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You did an awesome job on the windshield, it looks great ! It is the perfect angle and looks so much better then the stock look! Thanks for the photos and information. :-)
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« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2015, 04:50:31 AM » |
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Ok so weeeee all think alike with the angle and Honda can't get it??  |
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« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2015, 04:53:44 AM » |
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You did an awesome job on the windshield, it looks great ! It is the perfect angle and looks so much better then the stock look! Thanks for the photos and information. :-)
The handlebars and the windshield were hard (for me) to do, I'm real glad they turned out like they did. They are the difference between me selling the bike (at a giant loss) and happily keeping it and looking forward to riding it... -Mike |
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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2015, 06:33:27 PM » |
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Thanks for the idea. I did mine this afternoon, and the angle looks much better. It's nice that if the air flow doesn't work for me, I can go back to the original setup. I'm coming off knee surgery, so it's fun to do garage things until I can get back in the saddle. This is the cheapest mod i've ever done. I needed a metal drill bit, and paid $5 at Home Depot this morning.
Thanks again, Warren.
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