Fog/Running/Turn Signal Lights-One Package

[Stanc770]

Found this web site that has some very interesting Fog/Running lights on it. Contacted the supplier and was told the new Valkyrie turn signals will not activate or operate the turn signal portion of this kit. Does anyone know if the voltage is enough to trigger any type of relay?, maybe even something from another industry? It would still have to handle 12v and low amperage.
I have included the site address for anyone interested.

http://www.socalmotogear.com/GL1800-F6B-VALKYRIE-Rectangular-LED-Fog-Lights-p/gl18rfl.htm

[dinosnake]

Yeah, I looked at those myself just a few days ago.  My guess is that the Valk's LED turn signals operate at 5V; if so, then there are plenty of relays available to handle the issue.  The problem is that you'll need 2 relays plus their power feeds to install.  I figured it would be too much trouble for the benefit but if you go ahead I would tell you to bring both light's yellow/white aux power harnesses back to a common point where they can share a common power point and close relay installs.

[mrtappan]

I'll get out in my shop and check the output on the signals tomorrow.  I'm unsure of their voltage but they're controlled through basically a turn signal ECU so the possibilities on how they operate are many.

[Robert]

Interesting there were a few guys interested in those lights and its also interesting to hear that the Valk will not activate them. I have also seen some say a part wont fit the new Valkyrie when in fact it does. My belly pan was listed at not fitting the Valkyrie but fit like a glove. I wonder if they have just not tested it on the Valk and so say it wont fit to stop problems if there is any.

I am waiting for these to come in
http://cyclemax.com/inc/sdetail/gl1800_rectangular_led_fog_light_kit/46037/249206

[Stanc770]

Robert, that was the kit I originally had on my list to order. I may still order it if I can't make the other work. I just like the idea of have all the light up front for visibility for other drivers.
I am not going to believe I can't make the 1st set work, there has to be a relay to handle 12vs and be triggered by a lesser voltage. All the lights are LED so the amperage will be small. I guess what I'm saying is "NO" is not an option.

[mrtappan]

Well some stuff for the Goldwing/F6B will fit the Valkyrie such as belly pans, levers, the center stand, and floorboards heel/toe kits.

The electrical system.......  not so much.  The GW/F6B used traditional bulbs and are a three wire with diodes setup for the front turn/running lights.  The Valkyrie...... two wire controlled by that little "turn signal relay" as the wiring diagram shows it.  That "turn signal relay" has twelve wires going to it.  Also inline with that one is a second turn signal relay which has the traditional four wires going to it (an actual traditional turn signal relay).

So, yeah....  the electrical system is different by a good bit.

[_Sheffjs_]

Found this web site that has some very interesting Fog/Running lights on it. Contacted the supplier and was told the new Valkyrie turn signals will not activate or operate the turn signal portion of this kit. Does anyone know if the voltage is enough to trigger any type of relay?, maybe even something from another industry? It would still have to handle 12v and low amperage.
I have included the site address for anyone interested.

http://www.socalmotogear.com/GL1800-F6B-VALKYRIE-Rectangular-LED-Fog-Lights-p/gl18rfl.htm

I'm glad you posted, I really want these lights and Turn Signals but it is not my first priority right now.   

[bscrive]

Found this web site that has some very interesting Fog/Running lights on it. Contacted the supplier and was told the new Valkyrie turn signals will not activate or operate the turn signal portion of this kit. Does anyone know if the voltage is enough to trigger any type of relay?, maybe even something from another industry? It would still have to handle 12v and low amperage.
I have included the site address for anyone interested.

http://www.socalmotogear.com/GL1800-F6B-VALKYRIE-Rectangular-LED-Fog-Lights-p/gl18rfl.htm

I'm glad you posted, I really want these lights and Turn Signals but it is not my first priority right now.   

I wanted those ones as well, but trying to figure out electrical is not my forte.  ???  I will probably get the regular rectangular ones this winter.

[dinosnake]

Robert, that was the kit I originally had on my list to order. I may still order it if I can't make the other work. I just like the idea of have all the light up front for visibility for other drivers.
I am not going to believe I can't make the 1st set work, there has to be a relay to handle 12vs and be triggered by a lesser voltage. All the lights are LED so the amperage will be small. I guess what I'm saying is "NO" is not an option.

Relays handle larger voltages by being controlled by smaller voltages.  You certainly don't have to worry about a relay handling 12V on the load side, you just need to look for a relay that has a trigger coil compatible on the source (turn signal) side.  For example, if the signals do indeed operate at 5V then

http://www.ebay.com/sch/items/?_nkw=5v+spst+relay&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_sadis=&LH_CAds=&rmvSB=true

You'll need 2, one for each side's light.

[Robert]

So what kind of bulb is in the turn signal light for the fog lights does anyone know? If its a led then I doubt regardless of voltage that the Valk turn signal relay would not be able to handle it. Leds can light with as little as 3v and they even take less current than a relay. If it is a regular bulb then yes there may be a problem but you can use a micro relay and power them.

 Basically 2 relays 1 for each turn light mounted with the power for the bulb being drawn from a separate fuse and the relay is activated with the power that goes to the turn signal. It would not be hard and should work.
 Tappan if you can would you post the wiring diagram of the turn lights since it seems you have a shop manual for the Valk? If interested I can make a diagram and post it.


Mark T a sponsor of this board has the schematics of how to set up a horn relay on the 1500 Valk. This is the same concept for a led turn signal the only difference where the horn would be it would be the fog light turn signal and instead of the oem horn wire it would be the led. He also has alot of info on how relays work and the concept behind them.

http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/hornrelay.html

[_Sheffjs_]

Robert, that was the kit I originally had on my list to order. I may still order it if I can't make the other work. I just like the idea of have all the light up front for visibility for other drivers.
I am not going to believe I can't make the 1st set work, there has to be a relay to handle 12vs and be triggered by a lesser voltage. All the lights are LED so the amperage will be small. I guess what I'm saying is "NO" is not an option.

Relays handle larger voltages by being controlled by smaller voltages.  You certainly don't have to worry about a relay handling 12V on the load side, you just need to look for a relay that has a trigger coil compatible on the source (turn signal) side.  For example, if the signals do indeed operate at 5V then

http://www.ebay.com/sch/items/?_nkw=5v+spst+relay&_sacat=&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_sadis=&LH_CAds=&rmvSB=true

You'll need 2, one for each side's light.

And when the voltage gets really high we call them contactors  






this is what it looks like when 480v that supplied the contactor from this disconnect was not happy with one lug anymore. That was a 17 hr day starting with the alarm co calling at 4am to tell me to meet the fire trucks at work.     Sorry back to the thread -   Please post a wire diagram with the relays, but I need heated grips first for these brutal Florida winters we have.  

[Robert]

And when the voltage gets really high we call them contractors 






this is what it looks like when 480v that supplied the contactor from this disconnect was not happy with one lug anymore. That was a 17 hr day starting with the alarm co calling at 4am to tell me to meet the fire trucks at work.     Sorry back to the thread -   Please post a wire diagram with the relays, but I need heated grips first for these brutal Florida winters we have.   

Yup 480 should do real nice on those hand grips 

Just replace the horn with heated grips or maybe if the grips dont draw to much you could just use a switch. Most 12v switches can to 15 amps and I cannot imagine the grips using more than that.

[_Sheffjs_]

Yup 480 should do real nice on those hand grips 

  

[mrtappan]

Like usual, I got so busy at the shop I didn't mess with my own bike. 

I do have the wiring diagrams, courtesy of another member, if you want them.