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MarkT
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« on: October 30, 2015, 10:23:18 PM »

 I made an adapter for the valk & Craftsman lift, very simple, works great, compatible with a belly tank too. If there's interest I suppose I could make a few of these up for purchase. One could safety-wire the mount pins together and leave it on the bike.

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In use:

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 06:29:56 AM »

Always interested in Valk things.
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 11:20:43 AM »

I thought with a belly tank you could just use a piece of plywood ?
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2015, 11:49:32 AM »

This works on any Valkyrie.  And I'm not lifting on MY belly tank.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2015, 01:16:03 PM »

My belly tank is V-shaped on the bottom, like the hull of most boats, so I have to use a specially cut 2x4 to fit it. I've never really liked lifting on the tank, though, even though the folks who made it say it's no problem.

If you have a price plus shipping to the St. Louis area, I would be interested.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 01:37:11 PM »

Mark, absolutely on a simple lift adapter.

I will have it powder coated locally.

let me know.

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2015, 02:34:20 PM »

I would be interested ,but it looks a bit more forward.Could you show what the bike looks like up on the jack.Just trying to look at the balancing from f to r.thanks
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2015, 05:13:20 PM »

This adapter supports putting your ATV type lift in different places to bracket the C.G. of the bike.  The CG hovers around the back edge of the engine block.  It's a little further back on an IS, a little further fwd on a std.  Affected by the junk in your trunk.  Where you put the jack should be chosen based on what you are going to do sometimes.  Like if you are removing the rear wheel and swingarm, you would want to position your jack a bit more fwd for when the weight in back is gone. Or be prepared to put a cinder block under the front wheel.  Generally, putting the rear lift pad under the swingarm axis is a good starting point.

The way this adapter works, is it pins to the 20mm holes on the bottom sides of your engine block.  Then supports the bike aft of the C.G. with cantilever strength. So no braces that reach up to the swingarm are needed. 

You can safety-wire the two mounting pins to each other, and leave the adapter on the bike.  I have a similar frame on Deerslayer that's installed all the time - it's a frame around 8-10LED fixtures, with a Lexan window that lights up the road blue under the bike. It occurred to me, I can lift directly on that frame, tested it and sure enough, I have a convenient jack adapter already on board.
So I made an abbreviated one to lift Jade, with her belly tank.

My bikes aren't on the lifts right now, so no more pics today.  I am not doing this immediately.  Have pipe customers with priority.  For this adapter, I need to make a jig that holds the parts correctly for welding and test it, get in the parts, and do a batch run.  I will probably offer it with and without belly tank relief cuts. Then if you acquire a belly tank, go ahead and add the clearance cuts yourself with an angle grinder.  Reason being, most folks don't have a belly tank, so the cuts aren't needed, might as well go ahead and leave the box tubing with it's full strength back there on the ends.  I don't plan to powder coat it, but rattle can paint instead, as the former will add to the cost.  Can offer that as an extra-cost option.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2015, 07:32:16 AM »

Mark, thanks for the explantion.you covered it totally.I'm in.Let me know when ready.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2015, 12:15:15 PM »

I'd be interested in having one too. Let me know when you make some.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2015, 12:51:28 PM »

Please include me on the notification list when the adapters are ready for sale. Any idea on an approximate price?  ???
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2015, 02:40:36 PM »

Hi Mark,

Will this work with the Rivco center stand (which I have) on my Standard?

  Rich
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2015, 03:37:27 PM »

I will take one of those lift adapters when you get them done.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2015, 03:52:17 PM »

Count me in too.
Let me know when and how much.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2015, 05:21:23 PM »

I have found this one to be good. Is there for when you may need it. Can't build one for the price. Both good reviews, many sold and fast delivery.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-VALKYRIE-HONDA-LIFT-JACK-ADAPTER-1-MUST-HAVE-MOTORCYCLE-ITEM-Save-/170918265075?hash=item27cb85c0f3:g:VawAAOSwo0JWJFH4&vxp=mtr
 
Here is another that will work with the Rivco centerstand. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-VALKYRIE-HONDA-ORIG-RIVCO-JACK-ADAPTER-Save-money-with-Ea-use-/171670360016?hash=item27f859cfd0:g:kcIAAOSw~bFWLUZy&vxp=mtr

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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2015, 09:56:27 PM »

I have found this one to be good. Is there for when you may need it. Can't build one for the price. Both good reviews, many sold and fast delivery.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-VALKYRIE-HONDA-LIFT-JACK-ADAPTER-1-MUST-HAVE-MOTORCYCLE-ITEM-Save-/170918265075?hash=item27cb85c0f3:g:VawAAOSwo0JWJFH4&vxp=mtr
 
Here is another that will work with the Rivco centerstand.  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-VALKYRIE-HONDA-ORIG-RIVCO-JACK-ADAPTER-Save-money-with-Ea-use-/171670360016?hash=item27f859cfd0:g:kcIAAOSw~bFWLUZy&vxp=mtr




Neither of those will work with the belly tank.  THAT WAS THE POINT.  Not a purview of all possible jack adapters. My adapter can be permanently mounted to and left on the bike and will not interfere with the swingarm movement, unlike those adapters in your links. The part that reaches up to the swingarm is completely unnecessary and overly complex if the adapter is instead pinned to the engine casing - meaning my adapter will work in cases where there is ANYTHING behind the block, below the swingarm. I'm making this available as a service to the community (once I get the jig made after delivering current pipe customers) - don't expect to get rich off it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2015, 06:47:11 AM »

With these the weight of the bike is on the frame crossmember not all on engine case. With no interference and the mounted one is not attached to the engine in anyway. Are the pins to engine case holes what holds your adapter on? I would be afraid that if so those could poss. break out. especially if left on the bike to poss. catch a speedbreaker or etc. Being cast aluminum.  Not to knock the idea just curious. Like others always good to have new ideas to keep the Valk alive.
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2015, 08:03:06 AM »

With these the weight of the bike is on the frame crossmember not all on engine case. With no interference and the mounted one is not attached to the engine in anyway. Are the pins to engine case holes what holds your adapter on? I would be afraid that if so those could poss. break out. especially if left on the bike to poss. catch a speedbreaker or etc. Being cast aluminum.  Not to knock the idea just curious. Like others always good to have new ideas to keep the Valk alive.

Right - mount a lift adapter in the holes the factory uses to hold the engine during assembly, you'll probably break the aluminum casting. You wouldn't want to put the bike weight on the engine. Or fasten anything to it that was not approved by the factory.  Or use it as an integral frame component like half the bike makers do nowadays.  If you are that paranoid then don't buy it.  Better not get a belly tank either.  All that fuel down low might hit a "speedbreaker", crack, leak instantly, spark from the "speedbreaker" and you will burn to death.  Don't put on a darkside tire either.  Surely you will die a flaming death with that. Or put a back bike tire in front, reversed.  Or mix bias and radial tires on the same bike.  Hell maybe ya better not ride at all, motorcycles are DANGEROUS.
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2015, 11:33:52 AM »

Since I'll never own a valk without a belly tank, let me know when they become available and how much, please.  Looks like a great idea for me. 
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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2015, 04:22:56 PM »

Put me down for one too.

Thanks,
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2015, 06:02:58 AM »

I have found this one to be good. Is there for when you may need it. Can't build one for the price. Both good reviews, many sold and fast delivery.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-VALKYRIE-HONDA-LIFT-JACK-ADAPTER-1-MUST-HAVE-MOTORCYCLE-ITEM-Save-/170918265075?hash=item27cb85c0f3:g:VawAAOSwo0JWJFH4&vxp=mtr
 
Here is another that will work with the Rivco centerstand. 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOOK-VALKYRIE-HONDA-ORIG-RIVCO-JACK-ADAPTER-Save-money-with-Ea-use-/171670360016?hash=item27f859cfd0:g:kcIAAOSw~bFWLUZy&vxp=mtr




I agree the first one is the ticket for those that can install it in their configuration.  Assume it won't work with belly tank or center stand.  But it is there ready for service if and as needed at home or on the road.  I had one of those second red ones and got tired of having to wrestle and mount it all the time just to jack up the bike. 

I thought belly tanks were made to be able to use a jack/lift on them in those areas, maybe not, but it sure would provide better balance if possible.  Someone mentioned a notched 2x on one type of belly tank and I occasionally use some 2x even on my permanent lift adapter  when I want a little extra cushion, lift or to adjust center of gravity.

Different strokes for different folks....  Necessity is the mother of invention as they say.
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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2015, 07:45:18 PM »

I would like to be on the list too please!
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2016, 04:40:47 PM »

If the price is right I'd be interested in two of them.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2016, 04:47:12 PM »

Mark,
Please put me on the list as well. Intersted in the price...I have had 2 sets of your pipes, a set of headers for the bobber project...all top notch stuff and I expect this to be no less awesome!
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2016, 06:39:37 AM »

I expect to be able to work on the welding jig next week, as well as sourcing the parts.
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2016, 07:48:10 AM »

Looks like a cool idea, let us know when U R ready to sell them, I'll be interested, hell yeah! 
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