Wrong or legal

[dreamaker]

I have a question!! Is it wrong or Illegal, like a misdemeanor or felony, to tell the leader of our country, when he is out of office, what you think of him. Being their your opinion of course!

[Chrisj CMA]

It's not wrong or illegal even while he's in

[Valkorado]

If you can't speak your piece, it wouldn't be America anymore.

Wait, it appears we're leaning that way.  

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/04/loretta-lynch-vows-prosecute-anti-muslim-speech-calls-san-bernardino-wonderful-opportunity/

Maybe it'll only be illegal if the former president is a Muslim???   

[old2soon]

ANYTHING you say about our current pospotus either bounces off of Air Force numero uno or off surrounding greens at the golf course he's currently playing!   RIDE SFE.

[da prez]

  Expressed as an opinion , it can be said without legal recourse. (except to a greedy attorney).
   In my opinion , you are a motherless offspring.  This is O K.

       You are a motherless offspring. The true statement , but you have to prove it. 

     I am not a lawyer , but have gotten into trouble for my opinion in more than one instance.

                                       da prez

[baldo]

I have a question!! Is it wrong or Illegal, like a misdemeanor or felony, to tell the leader of our country, when he is out of office, what you think of him. Being their your opinion of course!

Whoa.....NOW we're talking......

http://dailycurrant.com/2013/03/13/jeb-bush-my-brother-idiot/

[dreamaker]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

[Valkorado]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

[Jess Tolbirt]

just dont make any type of threatening remarks..

[baldo]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

And who might that be?

[Valkorado]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

And who might that be?

Guess we'll know that when we see it, and not before.  A president must first be elected and then have some time in the office actually doing something before we can judge competence and performance.  Although I didn't vote for Obama, I honestly hoped he would be a good president for our country.  If he had been, he would have earned the respect of myself and many other Americans who did not support him with a vote.  

For myself and many other Americans, that respect has not been earned.  In fact I had more respect for him when he was first elected, and that isn't saying much.

In my opinion Obama is a terrible president and a liar.  He is the epitome of a crooked politician.

[baldo]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

And who might that be?

Guess we'll know that when we see it, and not before.  A president must first be elected and then have some time in the office actually doing something before we can judge competence and performance.  Although I didn't vote for Obama, I honestly hoped he would be a good president for our country.  If he had been, he would have earned the respect of myself and many other Americans who did not support him with a vote.  

For myself and many other Americans, that respect has not been earned.  In fact I had more respect for him when he was first elected, and that isn't saying much.

In my opinion Obama is a terrible president and a liar.  He is the epitome of a crooked politician.

I've asked this questions, easily 100 times on this board. What makes him "a terrible president and a liar"?

My follow-up question is....how did you feel about Bush?

[Valkorado]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

And who might that be?

Guess we'll know that when we see it, and not before.  A president must first be elected and then have some time in the office actually doing something before we can judge competence and performance.  Although I didn't vote for Obama, I honestly hoped he would be a good president for our country.  If he had been, he would have earned the respect of myself and many other Americans who did not support him with a vote.  

For myself and many other Americans, that respect has not been earned.  In fact I had more respect for him when he was first elected, and that isn't saying much.

In my opinion Obama is a terrible president and a liar.  He is the epitome of a crooked politician.

I've asked this questions, easily 100 times on this board. What makes him "a terrible president and a liar"?

My follow-up question is....how did you feel about Bush?

I won't take your bait.  

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/1063-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste-etc/

Suffice it to say, if you have not noticed his incompetence and deception (if you like your Doctor..., etc.) we definitely look at Obama from a different perspective.  

How did I feel about Bush?  Well, again, just one man's opinion.  He had his flaws.  I  probably respected Bush as a president less than you respect and love Obama.  

A different perspective.

[dreamaker]

I am not a political wiz, but based on my observation of Bush, I thought his deck was lacking a few cards, he was a Legend in his own mind. I thought his Dad  was on the ball with things. I got the feeling that he did certain things to please and impress his Dad, like capturing Saddam, which in my opinion, open Pandora's Box. I thought Saddam actions, was not our business, in reality. We don't need to be everyone's in the world Policeman.

[Gavin_Sons]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

And who might that be?

Guess we'll know that when we see it, and not before.  A president must first be elected and then have some time in the office actually doing something before we can judge competence and performance.  Although I didn't vote for Obama, I honestly hoped he would be a good president for our country.  If he had been, he would have earned the respect of myself and many other Americans who did not support him with a vote.  

For myself and many other Americans, that respect has not been earned.  In fact I had more respect for him when he was first elected, and that isn't saying much.

In my opinion Obama is a terrible president and a liar.  He is the epitome of a crooked politician.

I've asked this questions, easily 100 times on this board. What makes him "a terrible president and a liar"?

My follow-up question is....how did you feel about Bush?

And you have been told 1000 times, just saying.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I am not a political wiz, but based on my observation of Bush, I thought his deck was lacking a few cards, he was a legion in his own mind. I thought his Dad  was on the ball with things. I got the feeling that he did certain things to please and impress his Dad, like capturing Saddam, which in my opinion, open Pandora's Box. I thought Saddam actions, was not our business, in reality. We don't need to be everyone's in the world Policeman.

"He was a legion in his own mind"  Like the French Foreign Legion ?
Not that it matters what I think of Bush. But I don't think he was dumb, but he did come up with some pretty dumb quotes. I do like how he has stayed out of the fray unlike his Vice-President .

[baldo]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

And who might that be?

Guess we'll know that when we see it, and not before.  A president must first be elected and then have some time in the office actually doing something before we can judge competence and performance.  Although I didn't vote for Obama, I honestly hoped he would be a good president for our country.  If he had been, he would have earned the respect of myself and many other Americans who did not support him with a vote.  

For myself and many other Americans, that respect has not been earned.  In fact I had more respect for him when he was first elected, and that isn't saying much.

In my opinion Obama is a terrible president and a liar.  He is the epitome of a crooked politician.

I've asked this questions, easily 100 times on this board. What makes him "a terrible president and a liar"?

My follow-up question is....how did you feel about Bush?

And you have been told 1000 times, just saying.

Nice try.

[baldo]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

You were buffaloed!  About the worst that could have happened was you'd have had your mouth washed out with soap.  I got to listen to my dad going off on Carter, so I was pretty sure it wasn't illegal.

Respect for the office is one thing.  We do not have to respect an asshole inside it.  Hold that until we (God willing) have a person worthy of respect residing in our White House.

And who might that be?

Guess we'll know that when we see it, and not before.  A president must first be elected and then have some time in the office actually doing something before we can judge competence and performance.  Although I didn't vote for Obama, I honestly hoped he would be a good president for our country.  If he had been, he would have earned the respect of myself and many other Americans who did not support him with a vote.  

For myself and many other Americans, that respect has not been earned.  In fact I had more respect for him when he was first elected, and that isn't saying much.

In my opinion Obama is a terrible president and a liar.  He is the epitome of a crooked politician.

I've asked this questions, easily 100 times on this board. What makes him "a terrible president and a liar"?

My follow-up question is....how did you feel about Bush?

I won't take your bait.  

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/1063-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste-etc/

Suffice it to say, if you have not noticed his incompetence and deception (if you like your Doctor..., etc.) we definitely look at Obama from a different perspective.  

How did I feel about Bush?  Well, again, just one man's opinion.  He had his flaws.  I  probably respected Bush as a president less than you respect and love Obama.  

A different perspective.

Definitely a different perspective. And I applaud your choice of website to make your point. No bias there. Nope, not a bit.

[Valkorado]

Definitely a different perspective. And I applaud your choice of website to make your point. No bias there. Nope, not a bit.

You go get 'em, Baldo!  And please take the time (away) to dispute all 1,063 doucmented Obama lies and shenanigans.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/1063-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste-etc/

The article's author writes,

"Every claim that I make in this list is sourced. Click on the blue text to see the sources. I have cited a wide variety of sources, from right wing, to left wing, to middle of the road. I welcome any comments and criticisms that you may have. If you say my list is wrong, please back up your claim by citing specific examples".

[saddlesore]

Meanwhile, in court today..........

http://whbl.com/news/articles/2016/jan/13/tomah-man-convicted-of-threatening-president-obama/

[Willow]

Yes, you can find yourself in big trouble for threatening a president or ex-president.  Criticism and threats are not the same thing.

[Detn8er]

Definitely a different perspective. And I applaud your choice of website to make your point. No bias there. Nope, not a bit.

You go get 'em, Baldo!  And please take the time (away) to dispute all 1,063 doucmented Obama lies and shenanigans.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/1063-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste-etc/

The article's author writes,

"Every claim that I make in this list is sourced. Click on the blue text to see the sources. I have cited a wide variety of sources, from right wing, to left wing, to middle of the road. I welcome any comments and criticisms that you may have. If you say my list is wrong, please back up your claim by citing specific examples".

Where's Bwaldo? ......

[dreamaker]

Yes, you can find yourself in big trouble for threatening a president or ex-president.  Criticism and threats are not the same thing.

I was thinking more in the lines of, if someone expressed their opinion of the job they did or felt of their character, Ones opinion of course. We have a Governor  in Mich. Rick Snyder that is a big "O". Water in Flint, MI. is contaminated, mainly with lead, and it has got into the drinking water, Its been said they have known about it for maybe a year. Children show high levels of lead in their system, And Snyder said it was confirmed in Oct., but he has just started acting on it in the last few days.  People in Flint can't even take a shower or wash up safely. Even national celebrities are getting in his face about the Issue, one of them is Cher. So my point is if I tell his what I think of him, am I breaking a law.

[Serk]

Yes, you can find yourself in big trouble for threatening a president or ex-president.  Criticism and threats are not the same thing.

I was thinking more in the lines of, if someone expressed their opinion of the job they did or felt of their character, Ones opinion of course. We have a Governor  in Mich. Rick Snyder that is a big "O". Water in Flint, MI. is contaminated, mainly with lead, and it has got into the drinking water, Its been said they have known about it for maybe a year. Children show high levels of lead in their system, And Snyder said it was confirmed in Oct., but he has just started acting on it in the last few days.  People in Flint can't even take a shower or wash up safely. Even national celebrities are getting in his face about the Issue, one of them is Cher. So my point is if I tell his what I think of him, am I breaking a law.

Perfectly legal:
"You're a piece of fetid dingo manure, you dishfaced wankstain economically illiterate tosser!"

Not legal:
"I'm going to kill you and your whole family."

[Willow]

Yes, you can find yourself in big trouble for threatening a president or ex-president.  Criticism and threats are not the same thing.

I was thinking more in the lines of, if someone expressed their opinion of the job they did or felt of their character, Ones opinion of course. ...  So my point is if I tell his what I think of him, am I breaking a law.

I thought the original question you asked was fairly harmless.

Later on though you posted something that I thought may have had a misspelling of "threatening". 

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

One may want to be careful when expressing one's opinion particularly if one is inclined to become heated and especially if the person one is displeased with returns conversation.  A good communicator can express displeasure without issuing an even veiled threat.  A poor communicator can be easily drawn across the line.  Were I you, I would express my opinion in the voting booth or to friends.  I would not go out of my way to express it to an elected executive either in or out of office.   

[dreamaker]

Yes, you can find yourself in big trouble for threatening a president or ex-president.  Criticism and threats are not the same thing.

I was thinking more in the lines of, if someone expressed their opinion of the job they did or felt of their character, Ones opinion of course. ...  So my point is if I tell his what I think of him, am I breaking a law.

I thought the original question you asked was fairly harmless.

Later on though you posted something that I thought may have had a misspelling of "threatening". 

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

One may want to be careful when expressing one's opinion particularly if one is inclined to become heated and especially if the person one is displeased with returns conversation.  A good communicator can express displeasure without issuing an even veiled threat.  A poor communicator can be easily drawn across the line.  Were I you, I would express my opinion in the voting booth or to friends.  I would not go out of my way to express it to an elected executive either in or out of office.   

Good advice!!! I do have a very short fuse.  Specially when people are getting their health compromised.

Thanks!

[Momz]

dreamaker,

You must surely remember the "Nixon" and "Carter" years and all the criticizm and political shenanigans that ensued during their terms in office.
Complain, criticize, protest, and slander all you want. You have the right of "Freedom of Speech".
Physically threaten,.......well you will lose your freedoms very quickly.

American citizens have the right to vote (if properly registered), and is a powerful tool that gets the attention of politicians when used and applied properly.   

[dreamaker]

I don't just vote! I send letters and email to my  representatives, asking questions on issue in a polite way believe it or not.

[Chrisj CMA]

Now help me out there! Back when I was a teen, and a young adult, I was with the understanding at that time.  If you said a treating statement to the prez or even in joking, or open conversation, we were told it was a felony, and could be prosecuted for it. TRUTH or wives tail! See we were taught to have total respect for the prez., its not like it is today.

Can you NOT tell the difference between stating your opinion and threatening the POTUS?

I don't ever remember being taught to have unconditional respect for a president.  Maybe a measure of respect for the office held.  However, if a president deserves to be called a liar, incompetent and does not uphold the oath of office, there is no reason you cannot tell that person how you feel without threatening anyone.

[Detn8er]

Definitely a different perspective. And I applaud your choice of website to make your point. No bias there. Nope, not a bit.

You go get 'em, Baldo!  And please take the time (away) to dispute all 1,063 doucmented Obama lies and shenanigans.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/05/1063-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-hypocrisy-waste-etc/

The article's author writes,

"Every claim that I make in this list is sourced. Click on the blue text to see the sources. I have cited a wide variety of sources, from right wing, to left wing, to middle of the road. I welcome any comments and criticisms that you may have. If you say my list is wrong, please back up your claim by citing specific examples".

Where's Bwaldo? ......

Sure is taking Baldo a long time to check out all this info.......