Jeff K
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« on: September 14, 2009, 06:24:35 AM » |
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I don't have a scale... anymore...  Anyone have a volume to weigh on the dyna beads? X fluid ounces = X ounces weight? I could bring them in to work and weigh them I guess.
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PharmBoy
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 08:34:01 AM » |
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I weigh mine on a reloading scale.(Requires a little calculation) Also, the Post Office used to have a little balance. I don't think that they make it anymore. Too many druggies were using it to weigh their goodies. I think that some of the diet scales measure in ounces. Check out Evil-Bay. There is bound to be something inexpensive on there that is accurate enough to weigh Dyna Beads....JTL
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 10:48:56 AM » |
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yeah, my wife weighs them on a regular schedual, she know what to do when they get too heavy.....
honestly, i've got dyna beads in my tires, love 'em!!
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KY,Dave (AKA Misunderstood)
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 11:28:08 AM » |
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TearlessTom
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2009, 12:24:28 PM » |
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Dont know the weight, Just put in the recommended amount and ride. Balance is dead on.
Tom
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Jeff K
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 12:31:23 PM » |
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Dont know the weight, Just put in the recommended amount and ride. Balance is dead on.
Tom
?? If you don't know the weight how do you install the"recommended amount"? If my tire is supposed to take 4 oz I assume they mean 4 oz in weight, not 4 fluid ounces.
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TearlessTom
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2009, 12:57:49 PM » |
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You can buy them pre-packaged/weighted. http://www.innovativebalancing.com/gallery1.htm It a little more expensive but worth the difference. All you have to do is open the package and dump them in. If you are changing the tire you do not need the applicator, just break the bead and dump them in. If you want to go through the valve stem you need the applicator. It takes a while to get them all in using this method. Especially if you have the right angle stems. Tom
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PharmBoy
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2009, 01:27:19 PM » |
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OK! Three oz. is just a hair less than 33ml. That should be close enough for anybody's old tire...JTL 
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Jeff K
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2009, 01:28:09 PM » |
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You can buy them pre-packaged/weighted. http://www.innovativebalancing.com/gallery1.htm It a little more expensive but worth the difference. All you have to do is open the package and dump them in. If you are changing the tire you do not need the applicator, just break the bead and dump them in. If you want to go through the valve stem you need the applicator. It takes a while to get them all in using this method. Especially if you have the right angle stems. Tom A little more expensive? 460% more expensive. I paid .75/ ounce they sell them for $3.45 That's 460% markup? 
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Jeff K
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2009, 01:29:17 PM » |
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OK! Three oz. is just a hair less than 33ml. That should be close enough for anybody's old tire...JTL  Perfect! thanks! I found a big syringe I think it will work great for installing them.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2009, 02:02:42 PM » |
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Jeff, don't think that a syringe will work. I think that they will just pack up. Get one of the wife's hair dye bottles with the spout on it and 18-20" of clear poly tubing that will fit over the valve stem. The longer tubing lets you control the amount of beads flowing toward the valve stem and it also lets them get up a little velocity before having to make that 90 degree turn....JTL
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Jeff K
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2009, 02:10:44 PM » |
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Jeff, don't think that a syringe will work. I think that they will just pack up. Get one of the wife's hair dye bottles with the spout on it and 18-20" of clear poly tubing that will fit over the valve stem. The longer tubing lets you control the amount of beads flowing toward the valve stem and it also lets them get up a little velocity before having to make that 90 degree turn....JTL
Hair dye? None of that to be found in my house.  But I'm sure I can find something. Thanks
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2009, 06:24:33 PM » |
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yeah, my wife weighs them on a regular schedual, she know what to do when they get too heavy.....
honestly, i've got dyna beads in my tires, love 'em!!
I keep mine in my wife's purse! LOL
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2009, 02:40:56 AM » |
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I have a few bags prepacked (original). A 3 oz bag has a weight of 3 oz. That´s 85.48 gr. So 1 oz weight is 28.5 gr. All weights including the plastic bag. The bag is small, and made from thin plastic. I guess, we can ignore the weight of the bag. And no, i don´t want to put the beads alone on the scale  The scale is precise down to 0.02 gr.....
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2009, 01:37:03 PM » |
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Udo, there is 7,000 grains in a pound. Divided by 16 oz/lb gives 437.5 grains per ounce. There is 28.54 grams per oz. "gr." is the abreviation for grains and "gm" or "gms" is the abreviation for grams. I think that you have the numbers correct but the abreviation is not correct...JTL
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 02:53:36 AM » |
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Sorry, my fault. In Germany, we abbreviate Gramm to gr.....in fact, i wanted to say "Gramm", 0.001 Kilogramm.... 
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 04:13:37 AM » |
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Some quickie markets still sale scales they measure up to 1 oz. Also do a google for your area for " Head Shops " you can pick up a scale for less than $5.00 the internet has them online also. 
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 07:27:58 AM » |
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As far as applicators go, I found a washed out quart gear lube bottle with a piece of plastic tubing pressed on the spout works well to put them through the valve stem. If you have a vibrating etching tool, (or maybe some kinkier type of vibrating device), touching it to the valve stem will help the beads flow.
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 12:38:28 PM » |
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Udo, I was sure that you knew what you were talking about, I just did not know the difference in european abreviations....JTL
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 03:44:50 PM » |
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Udo, there is 7,000 grains in a pound. Divided by 16 oz/lb gives 437.5 grains per ounce. There is 28.54 grams per oz. "gr." is the abreviation for grains and "gm" or "gms" is the abreviation for grams. I think that you have the numbers correct but the abreviation is not correct...JTL
per Wikipedia (which agrees with my 32 years living with the metric system): Other abbreviations The International System of Units abbreviation for the gram is g, and follows the numeric value with a space, as in "640 g".[3][4] In some fields and regions, the international standard units for units are used quite strictly, in particular in technical and scientific publications and in legally regulated product labels. In other contexts, a wide range of other unofficial abbreviations have been encountered, such as gr, gm, grm, gms, grms. The use of abbreviations such as "gm", "Gm", or "GM" for grams could potentially lead to serious errors in healthcare settings where accidentally transposing "gm" to "mg" (milligrams) would result in a 1000 times dosage difference. It would therefore be prudent to use "g" as the abbreviation for grams in any healthcare setting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2009, 11:31:09 AM » |
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I do not propose to know what is prudent and proper in the "scientific world", but I am well schooled in the different weights & measures systems and all of the conversion factors used for each here in the U.S.A. (Avoirdupois, Metric, & Apothecary) I know that some of you will smile some, but back in the day before the hand-held calculators, Pharmaceutical Calculations was one of the more dreaded classes that was required in the school of pharmacy. You not only had to know how to set up the proper calculations with the right conversion factors, you had to do all the calculations with a pencil and what ever you might posses between your ears. Also, placing the decimal point in the correct spot is all important in the pharmaceutical world. A misplaced decimal point could be deadly. Everything had to be absolutely perfect or it was wrong. Not everyone made it out of that class on the first try and that was just a good warm-up for all the chemistry classes that followed. I understand that this is a tech board for Valkyrie Riders and I apologize for my little speech, but this thread started with a question about weights & measures...JTL
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