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Just wondering what I would put in to help the performance as well as maintain the fuel system and clean things up ??
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 09:38:44 PM » |
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B-12 Chemtool and or Techron. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 09:54:46 PM » |
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I use Lucas sometimes.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 10:12:09 PM » |
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B-12 Chemtool and or Techron. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 05:33:58 AM » |
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With every fill up? Nothing. When you want to clean out a bike that has been sitting. B-12 Best fuel system maintenance money can buy. Fill it and ride it. Daily.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 08:14:07 AM » |
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B-12 Chemtool and or Techron. RIDE SAFE.
STP is another good one. For degunking I like Seafoam the best but for periodic maintence all of the above. |
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 08:20:00 AM » |
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Just wondering what I would put in to help the performance as well as maintain the fuel system and clean things up ??
Yep - Seafoam, B-12, Techron, Lucas, and maybe others, for cleaning up the fuel system. Not every tank, but occasional use, to keep things clean. For performance, well, nothing will change that, unless your fuel system is gummed up enough to affect it. All those performance 'enhancers' are mostly snake oil, after your system is clean enough. |
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 01:31:28 PM » |
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I add a dose of Techron to the tank full every time the odo rolls over another 1000 miles. I have never had carb issues...
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2016, 03:02:37 AM » |
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B-12 or Techron is what I use periodically. The best thing you can do is to treat this corn fuel especially if your scooter does not run everyday. I have been using Liquid Performance with each tank full of ethanol gas. Only 1/2 ounce will treat 5 gallons. The Honda Dealer sells it here. Others may burn me here but I will also use Marvel Mystery Oil to help keep the O-rings from drying out on the fuel rails.
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2016, 03:19:22 AM » |
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I use the Stabil additive in every tank....car and bike...not the storage stuff.... the treatment for gas with alcohol in it. I think it used to be call Stabil 360 but now it's just called gas treatment.
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2016, 04:36:00 PM » |
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It doesn't hurt to find a gas station every now and then that sells a premium nonoxy fuel.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2016, 04:54:53 PM » |
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B-12 Chemtool and or Techron. RIDE SAFE.
stay away from seafoam and marvel mystery oil, both use low temperature solvents that will solidify on the back of the hot intake valve causing deposits which cause major loss in MPG and HP. Redline and Amsoil have excellent high temp cleaners. or look for anything that meets the BMW spec for intake valve cleanliness. SF and MMO do not. |
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2016, 08:26:28 PM » |
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A dash of Frank's Hot Sauce....every fill up....I add that crap to everything..... LOL
Seriously, some good detergent gas like at Costco now and then, Seafoam every Fall/Spring and B12 only when there are issues.
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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2016, 07:41:51 PM » |
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I try to buy from these stations, where possible: http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers/ |
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2016, 08:42:30 PM » |
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B-12 Chemtool and or Techron. RIDE SAFE.
stay away from seafoam and marvel mystery oil, both use low temperature solvents that will solidify on the back of the hot intake valve causing deposits which cause major loss in MPG and HP. Redline and Amsoil have excellent high temp cleaners. or look for anything that meets the BMW spec for intake valve cleanliness. SF and MMO do not. when have you seen a problem with sea foam?…………..never? |
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2016, 10:45:15 PM » |
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yeah, never had a problem with seafoam. B-12 works better though.
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2016, 08:01:31 AM » |
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I started using Seafoam when I joined this club and everyone said it was great. My IS sat for over a year once as I was enjoying a Standard that I built and was riding full time. When I decided to start riding my IS again she ran horrible, wouldn't idle, stumbled on acceleration and just ran bad. I ran multiple cans of Seafoam through her with no improvement; none, zero, zilch. I hit Autozone and bought a few of cans of B-12 and after the first can I was up about 50%, two more cans in a full tank and she was back to 100%.
Since I can almost buy three cans of B-12 for the price of one can of Seafoam, that did nothing for me, I will only use B-12 from now on.
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Tfrank59
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2016, 08:19:46 AM » |
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I started using Seafoam when I joined this club and everyone said it was great. My IS sat for over a year once as I was enjoying a Standard that I built and was riding full time. When I decided to start riding my IS again she ran horrible, wouldn't idle, stumbled on acceleration and just ran bad. I ran multiple cans of Seafoam through her with no improvement; none, zero, zilch. I hit Autozone and bought a few of cans of B-12 and after the first can I was up about 50%, two more cans in a full tank and she was back to 100%.
Since I can almost buy three cans of B-12 for the price of one can of Seafoam, that did nothing for me, I will only use B-12 from now on.
YMMV
That's good information thanks. I'm thinking seafoam is more of a stabilizer for like winter storage, but B12 is a fuel system cleaner. Since I don't store my bikes over winter, I don't need seafoam.
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2016, 09:56:07 AM » |
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stay away from seafoam and marvel mystery oil, both use low temperature solvents that will solidify on the back of the hot intake valve causing deposits which cause major loss in MPG and HP. Redline and Amsoil have excellent high temp cleaners. or look for anything that meets the BMW spec for intake valve cleanliness. SF and MMO do not. [/quote] when have you seen a problem with sea foam?…………..never? [/quote] main ingredient in seafoam is pale oil which is Chevron/oronite says: PALE OIL - straight naphthenic mineral oil, MVI to HVI, straw or pale yellow in color, used as a once-through lubricant and in the formulation of process oils this is not a diesel engine, so why put an oil in the gas? it will not burn except solidify on the intake valves or carbon up the piston top and rings. this is why when people use a lot to so call clean out the engine there is so much smoke, its the pale oil smoking. IMHO it is a bad idea to put oil in the gas for a 4 stroke gasoline engine. There are much better high tech modern cleaners out there to use and some which are approved by OEMs to keep injectors and intake valves clean.
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2016, 10:04:33 AM » |
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2016, 10:21:14 AM » |
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seafoam also contains Naptha and Isopropyl Alcohol. Pale oil is used as a carrier. Mind you the B-12 is better. problem is I cannot get it here
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2016, 04:00:31 AM » |
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good info. PolyEtherAmine (PEA) is what is in Gumout regane, largest bottle is more cost effective than Techron which has same additive. B-12, MMO, Seafoam CANNOT DO what a PEA formulation can do. Gumout is what I use the most if I don't fill up with a Top Tier gasoline, http://www.toptiergas.com/, B-12 for a more intense clean of the carbs esp. if the bike/s didn't run for a while. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3380078/1PolyEtherAmine (PEA) fuel additives are composed of specialized amines, which is the Subject of this White Paper. The primary use of PEA’s in fuel is to control intake valve and combustion chamber deposits. Amines in various forms are also used as anti-oxidants in lubricants. http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3380078/1 |
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« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2016, 05:04:12 PM » |
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I use gumout, lucas, and b-12. Only in spring when bike is just hettimg back going from winter hibernation.
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2016, 07:42:54 AM » |
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For me the only fuel system cleaner I will ever use is BG 44K. ( https://www.bgprod.com/catalog/gasoline-fuel-system/bg-44k-fuel-system-cleaner/) I only use it when doing a long trip, and plan on going through an entire tank of gas. Before I leave I put in the additive, run the tank almost empty before filling up again. I have a 1991 F350 (460 gasoline). When I got the truck it had 250k on it and only average 9mpg. After the BG 44K fuel treatment I now average 13mpg. That is a 30% increase! Hope this helps. |
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2016, 06:11:10 PM » |
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BG44k is nothing more than mineral spirits and distillates.
Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light Mineral Spirits
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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2016, 06:14:36 PM » |
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BG44k is nothing more than mineral spirits and distillates.
Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light Mineral Spirits
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« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2016, 06:16:58 PM » |
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B12 is essentially Acetone with components that allow it to mix with gasoline. Acetone is a great solvent for cleaning deposits in the fuel system.
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« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2016, 07:06:48 PM » |
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Anybody here like Vanilla Shakes??  |
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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2016, 08:37:04 PM » |
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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2016, 08:48:47 PM » |
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I have used Seafoam for over 20+ years in everything I have and never resulted in a problem. I have also seen it clean up a lot of bad running engines, but hey maybe it was because of the brand of oil I use or maybe the tires I run?????  |
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Anybody here like Vanilla Shakes?? Absolutely |
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Menards has SeaFoam for around $6.00. Everyone else charges too much.  |
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