Semi-Auto ...... Anyone own a CZ P-01?

[Pappy!]

This is on a very short list. Just have to get one in my hands and see how well it fits.
Any review I have read on it is stellar.

http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-01-9mm-black-alloy-14-rd-mags/

[john]

 CZ 91158 CZ-75 SP-01 Phantom 9mm 4.7" 18+1 Polymer Grip Black Finish  $523.56  -  Mr Gun Dealer ..... slickguns.com

[Mr Whiskey]

Did alot of research on the CZ 75 line of pistols (the sub-comp Rami BD is still on my short list). The only complaint I ever read was that the lower bore axis can make the slide alittle harder to grasp.
As far as dependability & accuracy were concerned, only thing comparable seemed to be the Beretta 92FS.

[Pappy!]

That's pretty much what I am reading as well. The lower bore axis is one of the high points of the gun in accuracy and reduced recoil. Not too worried about the grasp. The serrations are pretty crisp.

That's a pretty good price for the SP!

[Jess from VA]

A compact version of the CZ 75... one of the finest combat auto pistols of all times.

I have had an Israeli Jericho 941 (a CZ clone) for many years, and it is the best, most accurate 9mm I own; big and heavy and all steel.  (night sights, but no rail) (home defense, not carry for me).  The Jericho has polygonal rifling which greatly adds to accuracy, I cannot find what type rifling the P01 has.  My only gripe about the Jericho is that I have small hands and a hard time getting my trigger finger around the trigger for the first double action pull, which is on the heavy side (big frame and double stack); after the first shot, the trigger is back and a very light crisp pull for the rest of the mag.  Also, I'm not sure about the P01, but the Jericho has an active safety with the lever (if you want to use it), not just a spring loaded decocker.

[JDWhite]

I have been on the fence over CZ pattern pistols for a while now. Ergonomics are second to none IMO. However, I have become a striker fire convert. This was not an easy transition for me being I carried an H&K .40 as my duty weapon for years while I was a Deputy. Once I got used to the trigger and reset of striker fired weapons, I actually shoot tighter groups. I have a few firearms, but, my EDC is my trusty M&P Shild 9.
I say all that to say this...if I were to buy a SA/DA pistol, it would be a CZ hands down

[Raider]

I'd carry it, but I still think I like my CZ-75 a bit better.  I carry a full size, but my wive carries a 2075 RAMI, son in law and nephew both carry CZ-75 compacts.  GREAT pistols- the whole lot of them. 

We've got several pistols in the house, but I only carry two of them- the 75 or my revolver (S&W 686; it carries better on the bike).

Benefit of the 74 over the P-01- cocked and locked carry.  Consistent (and great) trigger pull every time. If you're thinking stronly of the P-01, consider the CZ-75 compact.  Great gun.

[desertrefugee]

Buddy of my has a CZ-75.  I always admired them, but am partial to the Hi Power myself.  I have several 9mm pistols - including a G26, but that Browning is my fave.   I had a Beretta for years, but never could shoot that thing worth a dang.  They must be a labor of love. 

[Wetrudgeon]

We own a P-01.  It is basically a compact 75B with a NATO stock number.  It has excellent ergonomics, is accurate, and ours has been 100% reliable.  Our one complaint against it is minor:  as pointed out by Whiskey, the CZ pistols are manufactured with the slide in the frame rather than (the more conventional) over the frame.  This lowers the bore axis and no doubt contributes to the pistol's excellent ergos.  The down side of this engineering is that there is less slide exposed.  This combined with the streamlined slide shape makes it somewhat difficult for us to manipulate it.  We think that if you can work with this one limitation, the CZ P-01 will not disappoint.

We trudge on.

[jdp]

I was going to start a topic on a hand gun but didn't know how it would go, I'm taking Cross country trip which half way will be solo and the rest with my wife, camping at times, I'd really feel better if I had a hand gun but which is better? A lot of my friends tell me the 40 cal glock, but they are mostly police and that's what they carry on the job. So what should I start looking at?

[Jess from VA]

Are you (or she) permitted for carry?  Or, would you carry on your person, or in your bags?

Reason I ask is small guns (for carry) are less easy to be good with than medium/large guns.  More to hold on to, less felt recoil/muzzle flip, adjustable over fixed sights, longer sight radius, higher bullet capacity.  I have a permit, but often choose to carry a larger pistol when traveling on the bike (in the bags, not in my pants).

What is your experience with revolvers or semiautos?  I recommend revolvers for novices, because they are easier to learn and be accurate with and safer (from jams and mistakes) than autos.  Will the wife want to learn, and if so this also can affect choice.  

A trip to a gun shop, just to handle the various choices/types is not a bad idea, and if they have a range, trying a few rentals is also not a bad idea.

Camping can mean night time drama (and most bad things happen at night anyway).  Therefore a light (autos need a rail) or laser (or night sights) is a nice addition, and if you want one of these, your choice of pistol must be made accordingly.  Or add a small super bright LED flashlight to keep with the pistol (with spare mags or speed loaders).

Sorry for participating in the thread drift.

[Pappy!]

Jess.....I have two gun safes in the house already and need a third. Pretty well versed in things that go bang. Thanks though!
Lesa is as well. She loves her Sigs and her P238 in particular.

Well....I bought the other version of this gun. The CZ 75D compact. Same gun minus the light rail ahead of the trigger guard plus a couple other changes.



Took it to the range and shot short yardage. Figured out a good grip and trigger pull for it.
Ordered a Nate Squared IWB holster for it.
Then I ordered new grips for it. These are made of G10 and aren't as grabby against your shirt or skin depending on how it is worn. They are just a touch thinner as well.



Went to the range again and shot the gun at 25yds for the first time, Am thinking this gun is a keeper for a compact double stack!

[Jess from VA]

The CZ (and variants) are great firearms.    (no experience with their polymer frame models)

As with most autos, ammo experimentation may result in a best load for your pistol.  

Trying to close a deal on this.  It was unfired, then he shot it and may decide not to sell.  

(I hate the firken key lock)

[Pappy!]

This one is not a polymer lower frame, it is aluminum alloy. Still do not own a polymer gun.
You mentioned Hi-Powers. I mistakenly sold a Browning Hi-Power about 15 years ago and still kicking myself in the arse for doing that!

[Jess from VA]

I know it isn't, I was just qualifying my opinion about CZs being good stuff.  As I said above, the double action pull on mine is smooth, but very heavy (and a reach for me).  The single action pull is a dream.

The older Belgian Hi Powers are the ones to look for. 

Nearly all of my few sales were regretted, later.  I think I got $250 for my mint Colt Detective Special (forehead smack), a long time ago, obviously.  At the time, you could not get a permit, and I was only interested in target guns. 

[Bronxboy]

I have the CZ Phantom as well, very awesome and very underrated weapon  U will love it.