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Author Topic: Valk clutch issue  (Read 990 times)
CANADIAN-F6C
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« on: April 15, 2016, 01:10:43 PM »

Greetings - I've been lurking around here for a few months, ever since I picked up a nice 99 standard last year. Got some great tips & ideas from all the posts - it's a great resource.
So at the end of the season last year (I'm in Canada, so we have a riding "season") I was having trouble finding neutral & the clunk into first gear was like an old Mack I used to drive. This winter I opened up the clutch reservoir & found lots of the dreaded gray gunk. I cleaned it out, removed the slave, blew out the line, got rebuild kits for both the primary & the slave (why not - I'm in there now) put it all back together, filled it up, bled the air ... but it doesn't work. I can pull the handle right to the bar with very little resistance.
Took it all apart again ... when I put my thumb over the end of the primary cylinder I can feel pressure when pulling the clutch lever - enough pressure to force fluid out the bleeder valve when it's all hooked up...so that seems fine.
The slave has new guts in it & they move freely - the lifter has a couple small grooves in it, but looked fine otherwise.
Again ... I bled it using the clutch handle & cranking open the bleeder valve, until I get just fluid.
Close her all up & ...nothing. The handle pulls very easily & is obviously not doing anything to the transmission. In gear with the clutch in,  I can't turn the back wheel at all & if I start it in Neutral & try for first she jumps & dies.
What am I missing??
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2016, 01:29:06 PM »


If you don't have leaks, it seems that maybe you just
need to work harder at bleeding out the air...

-Mike
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Highbinder
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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2016, 03:11:02 PM »

Like Mike said, you probably have air in the line that is not moving...a lot of times it will hang up at the banjo nut on the master cylinder, try cracking the bolt and be sure to have a rag under it to catch the fluid...it's not uncommon after you completely drain those lines to get all the air out, I found holding the clutch lever back while I'm working the vacuum bleeder helps, I've had them come back a few times using that procedure.....I've even bled them with no results and tied the lever back and left it over night, this allows the air in the line to raise and escape into the master cylinder, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't...just keep bleeding and it will come back... cooldude
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WintrSol
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« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2016, 04:28:30 PM »

The most effective method I've tried for getting air out of the banjo (other than the really messy one, above) is to turn the bars so that the reservoir is level, or slightly tilted toward the fitting. Then very slowly squeeze the lever, maybe a 10 count, hold another 5-10 seconds, then let it snap back. The rapid return of fluid will draw much of the air with it. Repeat as needed, until no tiny bubbles come from the MC into the reservoir. I just replaced the front brake lines with the Galfer ones, and this is how I got the air from that banjo.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2016, 07:50:27 PM »

CANADIAN, you might want to also add your location in your profile. Might find someone close by to help you out.

Suggestions given are good.

How is it you flush your lines, the exact method. You say you use the clutch handle and the bleeder. How?
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2016, 06:18:05 AM »

I did this job as well and used a vacuum bleeder, worked fine.
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