What is the actual factory recommended Oil weight?

[poman]

I know oil is a touchy subject but I don't have a manual and I just want to know the actual book/factory recommended weight...ie...10w40 or what?

I have 25K on my 98 valk. I will be using synthetic. I was told by Honda parts guy 10w 40 for standard oil and 10w 30 for synthetic. Im in hot florida. don't know enough to know if hes full of crap.

Thanks guys
poman out

[98valk]

any 15w40, 5w40 or the new 10w30 diesel oils

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,65911.0.html

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/HDEO%20SUMMARYrev2.html

see all zinc levels   shell 5w40 not listed but their 15w40 is, IMO Chevon Delo is one of the best out there right now, it even has high levels of boron which is a excellent anti-wear additive and cleaning agent, supertech also specs out very well and has given outstanding used oil analysis reports for m/c.  looking at the specs motorcraft is shell 15w40

much better oils out there than Lucas and at a lower cost IMHO,
http://www.pqiamerica.com/June%202014/consolidated%20HDEO%202015.html
 also watch lucas they get slammed every once in a while for bad product such as this 15w40 which tested to be 10w40
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs120/1103404816784/archive/1114545553890.html

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,82347.0.html

[poman]

Thanks for the links and info guys but I'm still confused.

 Does not the owners manual state a single weight and grade of recommended oil?

Ie. 10w40?

Thanks

[98valk]

Thanks for the links and info guys but I'm still confused.

 Does not the owners manual state a single weight and grade of recommended oil?

Ie. 10w40?

Thanks

owners manual or service manual
list by ambient temp range based on oils from 1988 for the first GL1500
10w30 up to 95F
the 40ws and 50w over 100F
I've used 10w30 diesel, to 100F and used oil analysis showed normal wear.
most honda's today including GL1800 use 10w30.
like I posted, u want the best, any diesel oil.

[CajunRider]

According to Sgt Joe... 4 quarts of 10w40, 20w50, 20W40, or 10W30 grade oil with an API service rating of SF or SG in accordance with the F6-C FM (field manual/owners manual)

http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/bongooil.htm

According to the manual that can be downloaded from the link below... any of those are good.  However, 10W40 has the largest temperature range (less than 20 to more than 100 F ).  

20W40 can be used for anything above 20 F if you're a bit worried about the heat in FL.  

http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp

[hubcapsc]

10w40

-Mike "manual, ch. 3"

[poman]

Thanks guys. Looks like I will go with rotella if I can get it in 10w 40 or 20w 40 . I'm assuming it is synthetic. Am I looking for T6 rotella? Can I pick up a gallon at walmarks?

Thanks guys for the patience

[gordonv]

Yes, Wally Mart. I buy it there for like $21/ jug, 1 US gal.

Generic parts page in Shot Talk.

http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

Look into a filter also.

One whole jug, and a new filter, is all you need. Have a spare oil drain washer around, incase it leaks.

[Firefighter]

I have been using 20w 50 Honda conventional oil for a long time. South Texas hot here. I think any of the recommended weights and oils will work fine if you change the oil when you are supposed too, these engines seem bullet proof.

[h13man]

Shell T6 Rotella 5-40w is what most Honda owners I know that use 40w multi oil.

[Gryphon Rider]

I can't remember if this is from the owner's manual or the service manual, but here it is for 1500 Valkyries:



There is certainly no need for 5W__ where you are unlikely to be riding in well below freezing temperatures.

[..]

Yes, Wally Mart. I buy it there for like $21/ jug, 1 US gal.

Generic parts page in Shot Talk.

http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

Look into a filter also.

One whole jug, and a new filter, is all you need. Have a spare oil drain washer around, incase it leaks.

In the USA the "whole jug" is 5 quarts. Bike needs 4 quarts!!!!!

[DarkSideR]

I knew the answer to this question per the owners manual, but I wanted to see if this oil thread took the typical course. Yup it did.

Some quotes from 'Things I learned on the VRCC' - "I learned which oil and tires to use. Then I learned I was wrong." & "If I post a question looking for a specific answer, I won't get one. The great thing about the Valkyrie is that it is very customizable. The bad thing about the Valkyrie is that it is very customizable. Everyone has their own great opinions on how to customize, maintain, etc the Valkyrie." & "If the post is asking about which oil to use it's already been beat to death in at least 100 other posts."

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,71989.0.html

[poman]

Yep Darksider I think it was going off the rail. LOL  That's why I stated the first sentence in my original post.

That being said,  I really appreciate all the info thanks for the print out of the Temp chart. That's good.

I'm headed to wallmarks to get some 10-40 or 20-40 T6 rotella.

Oh.... to open the can or worms a little further...  I read on the tech link that a Honda filter is the only one with a duel bypass valve to assist in dry starts. I will only be buying Honda filters from now on. Its only a couple dollars more, and I actually spin the filter off and put another on in between regular oil changes. my used oil looks like its just been poured out of the jug. Have always used mobile 1 syn motorcycle oil previous to this change to diesel. I hope its a good thing :-)

Thanks Guys
Poman out!

[DarkSideR]

Yep Darksider I think it was going off the rail. LOL  That's why I stated the first sentence in my original post.

That being said,  I really appreciate all the info thanks for the print out of the Temp chart. That's good.

I'm headed to wallmarks to get some 10-40 or 20-40 T6 rotella.

Oh.... to open the can or worms a little further...  I read on the tech link that a Honda filter is the only one with a duel bypass valve to assist in dry starts. I will only be buying Honda filters from now on. Its only a couple dollars more, and I actually spin the filter off and put another on in between regular oil changes. my used oil looks like its just been poured out of the jug. Have always used mobile 1 syn motorcycle oil previous to this change to diesel. I hope its a good thing :-)

Thanks Guys
Poman out!

For my next oil change I will be putting in one quart of 10w-30, one quart of 10w-40, one quart of 20w-40, and one quart of 20w-50 Diesel Oil. Then I will be completely covered. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Yep Darksider I think it was going off the rail. LOL  That's why I stated the first sentence in my original post.

That being said,  I really appreciate all the info thanks for the print out of the Temp chart. That's good.

I'm headed to wallmarks to get some 10-40 or 20-40 T6 rotella.

Oh.... to open the can or worms a little further...  I read on the tech link that a Honda filter is the only one with a duel bypass valve to assist in dry starts. I will only be buying Honda filters from now on. Its only a couple dollars more, and I actually spin the filter off and put another on in between regular oil changes. my used oil looks like its just been poured out of the jug. Have always used mobile 1 syn motorcycle oil previous to this change to diesel. I hope its a good thing :-)

Thanks Guys
Poman out!

For my next oil change I will be putting in one quart of 10w-30, one quart of 10w-40, one quart of 20w-40, and one quart of 20w-50 Diesel Oil. Then I will be completely covered. 

you forgot the synthetic or dino.

[westnek]

hi folks =I ve used Castrol 10- 40 motorcycle oil for years OR as advised by members to use oil with no writing in bottom of circle [ blank ]So this can be, cheaper diesel oil from wall mart OR motorcycle oil. Make sure  the info circle is  blank at the back of the container= and I change the oil every 2000 miles == cheap oil change =clean oil  ?

[gordonv]

Yes, Wally Mart. I buy it there for like $21/ jug, 1 US gal.

Generic parts page in Shot Talk.

http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

Look into a filter also.

One whole jug, and a new filter, is all you need. Have a spare oil drain washer around, incase it leaks.

In the USA the "whole jug" is 5 quarts. Bike needs 4 quarts!!!!!

From the manual.

3.7 liters (3.9 US qt, 3.31mp qt)
after draining filter change

Looked at the label on the jug. 1 Gal/3.785L

I believe the 5 qts is an Imp Gal (4.5L?). But I would need to check that. I buy my Rotella T6 from the US, $21 USD. In Canada, the same jug 1 US Gal, $45. Exchange is fairly high, but not that high.


Ok, to answer the OP's ?, from the manual.

RECOMMENDED ENGINE OIL:
Honda G N4 or H P4 4-stoke oil or equivalent motor oil
certified to meet API service classification : SF or SG
Viscosity: SAE 10W-40

That's why the Rotella T6.

[98valk]

same oil specs for the GL1500 from 1988
SF and SG oil classes are obsolete.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/apiserviceclass.htm

[Rio Wil]

For my next oil change I will be putting in one quart of 10w-30, one quart of 10w-40, one quart of 20w-40, and one quart of 20w-50 Diesel Oil. Then I will be completely covered.   

and what is really funny is.....YOU COULD DO EXACTLY THAT....USE ONE QUART OF EACH AND YOUR BIKE WILL LAST AS LONG AN ANY OTHER VALKYRIE USING HIGHLY SPECIFIC/SPECIALIZED OIL..!!!!!

THESE ENGINES JUST DON'T CARE!!!!!!!

I am currently using 3 in 1 oil with a toilet paper filter...of course only the finest paper from Costco.....gotta pamper the ole gal ya know....

[Gryphon Rider]

Have always used mobile 1 syn motorcycle oil previous to this change to diesel. I hope its a good thing :-)

Many here, including me, have excellent results with Mobil 1 15W-50 non-motorcycle-specific synthetic oil.

[Joevalk]

Mobil 1 20-50 full synthetic

[..]

Yes, Wally Mart. I buy it there for like $21/ jug, 1 US gal.

Generic parts page in Shot Talk.

http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

Look into a filter also.

One whole jug, and a new filter, is all you need. Have a spare oil drain washer around, incase it leaks.

In the USA the "whole jug" is 5 quarts. Bike needs 4 quarts!!!!!

From the manual.

3.7 liters (3.9 US qt, 3.31mp qt)
after draining filter change

Looked at the label on the jug. 1 Gal/3.785L

I believe the 5 qts is an Imp Gal (4.5L?). But I would need to check that. I buy my Rotella T6 from the US, $21 USD. In Canada, the same jug 1 US Gal, $45. Exchange is fairly high, but not that high.


Ok, to answer the OP's ?, from the manual.

RECOMMENDED ENGINE OIL:
Honda G N4 or H P4 4-stoke oil or equivalent motor oil
certified to meet API service classification : SF or SG
Viscosity: SAE 10W-40

That's why the Rotella T6.

I'll try to make this simple.

You stated that one should use the WHOLE JUG!!!

In the USA a whole jug is 5 quarts.

If one did what you suggested in the USA there would be ONE QUART TOO MUCH IN THE ENGINE.

I'm hoping the op DIDN'T follow your recommendation to USE THE WHOLE JUG thereby overfilling his bike BY ONE QUART.

[Cracker Jack]

Yes, Wally Mart. I buy it there for like $21/ jug, 1 US gal.

Generic parts page in Shot Talk.

http://www.jkozloski.com/generic_parts.htm

Look into a filter also.

One whole jug, and a new filter, is all you need. Have a spare oil drain washer around, incase it leaks.

In the USA the "whole jug" is 5 quarts. Bike needs 4 quarts!!!!!

From the manual.

3.7 liters (3.9 US qt, 3.31mp qt)
after draining filter change

Looked at the label on the jug. 1 Gal/3.785L

I believe the 5 qts is an Imp Gal (4.5L?). But I would need to check that. I buy my Rotella T6 from the US, $21 USD. In Canada, the same jug 1 US Gal, $45. Exchange is fairly high, but not that high.


Ok, to answer the OP's ?, from the manual.

RECOMMENDED ENGINE OIL:
Honda G N4 or H P4 4-stoke oil or equivalent motor oil
certified to meet API service classification : SF or SG
Viscosity: SAE 10W-40

That's why the Rotella T6.

I'll try to make this simple.

You stated that one should use the WHOLE JUG!!!

In the USA a whole jug is 5 quarts.

If one did what you suggested in the USA there would be ONE QUART TOO MUCH IN THE ENGINE.

I'm hoping the op DIDN'T follow your recommendation to USE THE WHOLE JUG thereby overfilling his bike BY ONE QUART.

Thanks for making it simple for folks like me. However, if you will check, I think you will find that Rotella T6 is packed in four quart jugs, even in the USA.

[The emperor has no clothes]

There are several other oils packaged in 1 gal. containers. (Even in the USA)

[gordonv]

In my first post, I should have added the words "Rotella T6" to clarify what it was I was talking about.

No where did I say to put 5 qts in, I said jug.


I then found in the manual it says the bike wants 3.7L/3.9 US qts. Again, no mentioned of 5 qts.


Then in my second post I added the size of the "recommended" jug of T6, 1 US Gal/3.785L. Again, no mention of qts.

How does a 1 US Gal container become 5 qts? 1 US Gal is 4 qts.

The bike wants 3.7L and the jug is 3.785L.
The bike wants 3.9 qts and the jug is 4 qts.

I see nothing wrong with my figures, do you really see something wrong?

I take no offence questioning each other. I know I write the wrong things sometimes, that's why there is almost an edit (modify) on almost every one of my posts. I re-read them and find something wrong.

[The emperor has no clothes]

In my first post, I should have added the words "Rotella T6" to clarify what it was I was talking about.

No where did I say to put 5 qts in, I said jug.


I then found in the manual it says the bike wants 3.7L/3.9 US qts. Again, no mentioned of 5 qts.


Then in my second post I added the size of the "recommended" jug of T6, 1 US Gal/3.785L. Again, no mention of qts.

How does a 1 US Gal container become 5 qts? 1 US Gal is 4 qts.

The bike wants 3.7L and the jug is 3.785L.
The bike wants 3.9 qts and the jug is 4 qts.

I see nothing wrong with my figures, do you really see something wrong?

I take no offence questioning each other. I know I write the wrong things sometimes, that's why there is almost an edit (modify) on almost every one of my posts. I re-read them and find something wrong.

[h13man]

There is certainly no need for 5W__ where you are unlikely to be riding in well below freezing temperatures.

May not be a need but $22 for four quarts of synthetic, I think I can live with 5-40w viscosity. 

[pancho]

Nope,,    not me

[Mr.BubblesVRCCDS0008]

I'll keep it short. Mobil 1 15 W 50 for the last 197,000 miles no problem. it's hot here in Texas too. Clutch did fail once but only after 160,000 miles. The rivets failed.

[Joevalk]

I tried some 10W30 once. Too much engine noises at 15000 miles. Drained that $11 a quart out and switched to 20w50.