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cooler
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« on: May 02, 2016, 10:11:26 PM »

I  think I roasted my cluch! 
When I'm rolling down the road and twist the throttle it feels like the clutch is slipping in 2,3,4 gears. Engine revs up almost like its out of gear ?
 I have been known to ride her like i stole her!! A little!  ok alot! Lol!!
Is there any videos on changing the clutch?  I've never tore into one before!  ( its a honda! Change fluids and brakes and add chrome! That's about all she ever needed )
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flash2002
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 03:36:34 AM »

Check the hydraulics from master to slave to make sure it's all in working order before you take it apart.
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 05:20:26 AM »

What oil are you running in it?
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 05:41:20 AM »

Have you installed custom clutch & break levers lately?
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 08:26:22 AM »

Yeah all those questions you've been asked so far --answer them before tearing into it. Here's my question, how long have you had the bike – how many miles have you ridden --and is this a new situation that just came about?  Reason being, if you just acquired the bike then the PO must've done it, and you have no way of knowing how long the clutch has been slipping--it may have been fried for the last 10K (then it's more likely you'll need some major repairs). If you have ridden for a long time and this is a new development then that changes things a bit, and if you haven't beat on it too badly, riding it "like you stole it", it's possibly just the clutch slave or something minor. 

Me personally, I baby my clutch. I hate riding it like if I'm sitting in traffic on a hill, I'm likely to wait until I can just go rather than slipping it. And even if I'm getting on the girl pretty hard it's not with the clutch I do it -- the clutch is completely out and solidly in a gear before I twist the throttle hard.  And for what it's worth, with a couple of dozen bikes over 40 years I've never fried a clutch.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 08:59:14 AM »

My buffer plate had the rivets fail and those are the symptoms I experienced.

I think it was around $200 for parts and I did the work myself and with the help of a friend (who had a press for getting the spring compressed to place the circle clip back in the clutch pack) and the articles here at VRCC on the topic (thanks guys, and gals).

Getting to a couple of the bolts for the cover was a big pain, getting the plates all lined up was also.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 02:22:14 PM »

Ok !  I bought her new in 03
Have 29,000 miles on her (I have drag raced her,  hotrod , and shrank alot of harleys lol)
I run mobile 1 15W50  full synthetic (about the last 6-7 years )
New levers in 03 ( 1st thing I done, took them off my 01 magna when I  traded it in)
I really believe i f'd it up 2 years ago, i did a burnout n was hard on the clutch,  next time I rode it i felt the slip but before i could get home i caught  a flat so I thought maybe it was the tire slipping on the wheel,  didn't ride it the rest of the year due to needing a tire n going through a divorce  (being broke ) put a tire on it last summer to move it, but my son rode it to new place, due to me having rotator cup surgery.  (SMDH I sound like a train wreck ) so this year I'm good to go n looking forward to spending a lot of time riding!  
I had her out a few time for short rides with no problems!  However yesterday I took it Son a longer ride and noticed it slipping when id grab a handfull of throttle !
Now I'm pissed at myself for showing and being stupid!!
1 more thing!  Maybe it's only happening after she is good and warmed up? ??????

Thanks guys for all your help and advice!
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2016, 02:39:50 PM »

And to Tom! With all my hotrodding and what not I've always tried to come off the clutch "clean" (not riding ir) that 1 day i rode the clutch pretty hard! Smh!
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2016, 04:30:33 PM »

It's been over ten years since I've had a Valk clutch apart (probably just jinked myself), but, what I remember is you'll need an impact driver.

Not a hard job to do for someone with some mech experience.

Possible pinion cup failure?
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2016, 04:37:46 PM »

And to Tom! With all my hotrodding and what not I've always tried to come off the clutch "clean" (not riding ir) that 1 day i rode the clutch pretty hard! Smh!

Okay, well burn-outs with an 800 lb bike and no high performance clutch--that's gonna cook it pretty good Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2016, 08:14:04 PM »

Well THANK YOU Fellas!!
      After I posted original question,  I've looked around our site n the net and found some videos and step by step pictures!  Im confident I can handle this project sounds to me the hardest part is getting all the disks lined up straight!
I haven't looked around for parts yet! but does anyone have a link to a better than stock/ high performance cluch!?

THANKS Again for all your help!
Dave
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2016, 08:52:52 PM »

I don't know about High Perf parts, but try out http://www.procaliber.com for OEM.

I don't like the idea of tearing into something hard, without trying some easier things 1st, on something that you can't actually see and verify that it is what is wrong.

I would do an oil change. Maybe change your oil brand.

Change out your clutch fluid. Flush all of them while your at it (brakes too).

It sounds like plates slipping. If it was rivets, it should affect the travel of the clutch lever. I wonder if the slave cylinder for the clutch might be giving trouble.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2016, 11:05:16 PM »

Will definitely check everything easy first!  Alot easier than working under the phat lady! Besides the fact that I've not changed the clutch or brake fluids! My plan for this season was to replace the brake and cluch lines with braided stainless  lines anyway! (I try to add something every year to make it faster, safer, shinier, etc )

Thanks again for your input!!
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flash2002
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2016, 02:38:42 AM »

Don't forget to check the return passage in the master, if it blocks it will stop the clutch from returning all the way.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2016, 09:31:14 AM »

Try a quick fix first. Dump the M1 15-40 and go to Shell Rotella 15-40 dino. I ran M1 for 80K miles and began to get slippage in 4th gear at max throttle. Went to Rotella and after 2K miles the clutch was fine. Even torture tested the clutch by max throttle in forth gear and blip the clutch, rpm jumps to about 6 grand and pulls down to running rpm in about a second.  Been fine for the last 150K miles.......BTW, I ride with enthusiasm  (a lot).. crazy2
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