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« on: July 31, 2016, 08:20:54 AM » |
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I was loving the brightness and focus of these bulbs, but was looking over the Interstate and noticed that even with the cooling fan they were running too hot inside the buckets and causing the chrome reflectors to spiderweb. I took 'em out and went back to halogens.
Ordered a set of these halogens, they are rated highly. They can be found for around 23 bucks for a set on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-X-treme-Vision-130-Headlight-Bulbs-H1-12V55W-xtreme-extreme-Pair-/122281018659?hash=item1c78844523:g:kEMAAOSw6DtYXHCI&vxp=mtr
and I like the beam pattern. These
http://www.ebay.com/itm/H4-9003-True-25W-2800LM-New-Flip-Chip-LED-Motorcycle-Headlight-Dual-Hi-Lo-Bulb-/322192503107?hash=item4b042b7143:g:WMcAAOSwYSlXh-YD
are a bit of a different design, the fan and cooling fins are on the front so install is a snap. The existing spring clamp needs no modification whatsoever. 2800lm ea for a total of 5600lm with two bulbs. Bright white 6000k. Lights up the entire road to daylight specs. The best thing is they are almost identical in beam pattern to OEM. They designed the bulb placement to be exactly where hi/lo projects from a halogen bulb. I did have to bend back the bottom tabs so the H4 fits the (9003?) Interstate socket. They recommend you don't use the dust covers on motorcycles so there is some air flow. Not a problem on Interstates. These are great, blazing bright white bulbs -- the best I've tried.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2016, 03:33:35 PM » |
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Do they have high and low beam? Are they blinding to on-coming traffic or do they seem ok? If I read correctly they are 25 watts each, so about half the watts of oem, correct? Guessing they should last longer?
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2016, 04:04:58 PM » |
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Looking at the ad Yes they have Hi/ Lo beams.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2016, 07:24:25 PM » |
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Yes, Hi/Lo. Both are the same type (25w) Phillips FlipChip, just at different placement on the bulb. I ride with hi beams on in the daytime and (mostly) lo beams at night, have never been flashed by oncoming traffic.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2016, 09:55:18 AM » |
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The ad says not compatible with tour or interstate. Is that only because of the tab you had ton end?
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2016, 11:29:32 AM » |
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The ad says not compatible with tour or interstate. Is that only because of the tab you had ton end?
Look on page 21 of Compatible vehicles it lists all three models of the Valkyrie. don't know where you were looking to see it said not compatible. Also standard and Tourer have the same bucket, so if it would work on standard it would work on tourer
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2016, 02:45:10 PM » |
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Thanks. I did the search where you fill in the make/model/year and result was not compatible. Been following darksider's thread in the general forum and just thought I'd try something as a stopgap measure until he finalizes his adapter. Older I get the more light I need 
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2016, 05:34:24 PM » |
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The ad says not compatible with tour or interstate. Is that only because of the tab you had ton end?
If you use the bulb on a Tourer you won't have to bend back the tabs at all. You will have to bend them back for an Interstate -- and like 3W-lonerider noted you'll need two bulbs for an IS (good deal he found for two, BTW).
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2016, 05:13:05 AM » |
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I run a headlight modular wonder if these would work with it. I like the idea of these as stated earlier as I age more light is a plus
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2016, 07:02:34 AM » |
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I assume that the inner reflector is removed with the application of this front cooled bulb??
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2016, 07:10:19 AM » |
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I assume that the inner reflector is removed with the application of this front cooled bulb??
Not an issue for Interstate application. If used on a Tourer you'd want to remove the OEM reflector.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2016, 07:16:00 AM » |
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Let us know how they work out.
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2016, 08:03:10 AM » |
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I just ordered a bulb for my standard. Ran into the dreaded switch issue and that thing looks like it has got pretty hot.
I'm hoping the reduced wattage helps prevent another "switchening".
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2016, 10:52:33 AM » |
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So I got the bulb mentioned above and installed it into my standard. Excellent light dispersion ahead of me. Vast improvement on the lumens output and super white. I had to take out the center reflector cover but that was simple. The only drawback I see is that half of the reflector bucket is not lit up, making it harder for unobservant cagers to see me from the front. There is a slight tilt to the bulb, not sure if that was intentional for oncoming motorists or if it is a manufacturing flaw. I think purchasing a set of driving lights is in my near future to catch attention.  
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2016, 06:24:52 PM » |
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That's interesting Moofner. I'm using the bulbs on an Interstate, and the lower buckets fill with light much better than that. Maybe it's because you had to remove the reflector cover, (there are none on the IS). Try it at night and see what you think. That's what convinced me, they are 100% better than the 45w OEM Interstate bulbs and the light is focused well. I didn't have to mess with beam adjustment, and they have less washout than other LEDs I've tried.
BTW, I've been using a different LED on the Tourer for a couple seasons and the whole bucket fills with light.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2016, 07:22:39 PM » |
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That's interesting Moofner. I'm using the bulbs on an Interstate, and the lower buckets fill with light much better than that. Maybe it's because you had to remove the reflector cover, (there are none on the IS). Try it at night and see what you think. That's what convinced me, they are 100% better than the 45w OEM Interstate bulbs and the light is focused well. I didn't have to mess with beam adjustment, and they have less washout than other LEDs I've tried.
BTW, I've been using a different LED on the Tourer for a couple seasons and the whole bucket fills with light.
Point me in the right direction for the one you used on your tourer. I have no problem experimenting a little.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2016, 08:06:02 PM » |
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That took some digging, there are so many different kinds it's mind boggling. This is what I'm using in my Tourer, but it took some doing. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=111594943898&_sacat=0The spring clip didn't fit quit right, had to bend it a bit. The dust cover won't work with the cooling fins unless you cut the hole wider. I didn't want to do that so I made a dust cover by wrapping silicone tape between the socket and the cooling fins. I think many here have used the Cyclops brand bulbs in Standards and Tourers and like them.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2016, 11:37:26 AM » |
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Took a ride and a closer look at the bulbs on my Interstate. As Moofner noted, the bulbs don't light up the bottom of the buckets as well as I'd like. It's not as dramatic on the IS, but it's definitely noticeable. Still, the daylight visibility is better than the OEM bulbs, and the nighttime beam and brightness are the best I've used so they'll stay installed. I have no problems using FM radio with these bulbs, however I do have an Alpine amplifier installed, which may negate any RF interference.
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2016, 06:38:07 PM » |
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Hey Hal, I use these lead covers that snap over wires for our touch screens on our control panels that block interference. Sounds like something they are sending you. Hope this works, I'm using you as a guinea pig before I buy 
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2016, 04:18:08 PM » |
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hi everybody, I just wanted to give you an update as to the stark light H4 9003 True 25W 2800LM New Flip Chip LED Motorcycle Headlight Dual Hi Lo Bulb… I looked at everybody's post and went on to eBay. Notice that the store was in Los Angeles so I contacted them and went down there today and I can confirm on a standard. The bulb will fit without the reflector and is plug-and-play However, as indicated, supra, only half of the globe lights up The gentleman who installed the LED bulb for me indicated had another LED bulb was a little bit better(and of course more expensive) and that's what I went with take a look at the pics of the bulb. The bulb I went with was also a direct plug-and-play and lights up the entire globe. Below you'll see pictures of the boxes and amperage draws 
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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2016, 04:22:41 PM » |
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I could use a little help… When I did a preview the image was there. However, the image is not visible on the post… A little help, please, I used Google as my image, host, and right-click and copied thethe link location then placed it between the image brackets
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2016, 08:45:09 AM » |
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I could use a little help… When I did a preview the image was there. However, the image is not visible on the post… A little help, please, I used Google as my image, host, and right-click and copied thethe link location then placed it between the image brackets
It looks like you did it correctly. I can copy the url and view it. The thing that troubles me is that the urls begins with https. That usually indicates a secure location and may not be able to be indirectly linked.
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I could use a little help… When I did a preview the image was there. However, the image is not visible on the post… A little help, please, I used Google as my image, host, and right-click and copied thethe link location then placed it between the image brackets
I went to your image viewing site, right clicked on the image, selected properties, then copied the URL of the image.   
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Am I missing somethong here or am I blind? Is N2 the manufacturer of this light? Can you post the full manufacturer and part number cause I don't see it on the pics of the box.
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2016, 05:48:06 PM » |
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I'm new to Valkyrie. I've just bought one a few weeks ago but absolutely love it. I was on the road a few nights ago for the first time in the dark with it and discovered the Speedo is only lit on the right side but there is nearly no light on the left of the dial. I assume there is more than one bulb behind the face. Also, what is the process for changing the bulbs. I haven't had a chance to really get into it but from what I can tell it appears the front fairing is going to end up nearly dismantled in order to replace the bulb.
What is the most time saving means of changing the bulbs or is it best to just dig in and learn it.
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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2016, 05:54:43 AM » |
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I'm new to Valkyrie. I've just bought one a few weeks ago but absolutely love it. I was on the road a few nights ago for the first time in the dark with it and discovered the Speedo is only lit on the right side but there is nearly no light on the left of the dial. I assume there is more than one bulb behind the face. Also, what is the process for changing the bulbs. I haven't had a chance to really get into it but from what I can tell it appears the front fairing is going to end up nearly dismantled in order to replace the bulb.
What is the most time saving means of changing the bulbs or is it best to just dig in and learn it.
Welcome to the board. Here ya go! http://www.valkyrieriders.com/shoptalk/interstateheadlight.htm
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2016, 05:04:28 PM » |
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Does anyone have any feedback on these bulbs since installing them on a Interstate? Looking at purchasing a pair of these. 50W 5600LM New Flip Chip LED Direct Headlight Bulbs Dual Hi Lo - H4 HB2 9003 Thanks, Bryan
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2017, 08:04:22 AM » |
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Does anyone have any feedback on these bulbs since installing them on a Interstate? Looking at purchasing a pair of these. 50W 5600LM New Flip Chip LED Direct Headlight Bulbs Dual Hi Lo - H4 HB2 9003 Thanks, Bryan They burn too hot, see edit (in yellow) on first post. I went back to halogens.
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2017, 09:45:21 AM » |
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I tried two different makes of H4 LED bulbs, in two different headlight buckets - the Valkyrie std/tourer and Drag Specialties shells. None of them could put the light emitter where it needed to be for the focus of the reflector even with plenty of fore-aft adjusting. So the light was just smeared out in front. Lots of volume, very poor aiming. Gave up on it and went back to halogen. With the high power headlight mod. Your IS already has headlight relays. Don't know the gauge of the wires so can't speak to how powerful bulbs they will support. Now if you want LED headlights - the Daymaker is the way to go. The fixtures are designed to focus the LED light emitters correctly. However don't know if they are getting them made for the IS. I'd bet HD has some Daymaker fixtures that might be adaptable to the dual-light fairing. If it was me I would just try out high watt bulbs. Jess or somebody posted about using 100/80's w/o trouble.
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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2017, 05:30:04 PM » |
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Thank you guys for the additional feedback, at this time I'm leaning towards the h4 halogen bulbs! I know they work and last for lots of hours.
Thank you again, Bryan
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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2017, 04:07:31 PM » |
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Picked up 100/80 watt Headlight bulbs, do you guys see any potential problems with these? Going in 1999 Valk IS..
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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2017, 02:36:41 PM » |
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I think MarkT is running something like that, but if I remember correctly he beefed up his wiring in the Tourer buckets. Running two 100/80s in an IS will probably require beefier wiring, or something like one of BonS' smart switch contraptions.
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2017, 08:01:38 PM » |
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There have been at least one report of spider webbed lens and canister on the I/S.
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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2017, 06:45:15 PM » |
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Ok, thanks kodiakfisher, valkarado, I'll check into the wiring and keep an eye out on the heat in the Headlight housing.
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I found these on sale for 15 bucks locally, will they work? https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9003-Vision-Upgrade-Headlight/dp/B00P2DB1EO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1511585105&sr=8-7&keywords=philips+9003I am worried since back of box states 67/60w vs. the standard 45 or 50 watt bulbs having issues with the clear lense getting too hot due to wattage. Is this a concern? I compared these to the more expensive 25 dollar on up philips 9003 and they were like 55-60 watts with 100-130% more light, but find my I/S with the original stock bulbs from 2001 are just fine assuming they are 45/45 watt bulbs. these offer only 30% more light but comparing the back of the more expensive say 100-130% more light bulbs at 10-20 bucks more per 2 pack although the light color goes from say 3200k to 4000k or so, the life expectancy is best with this bulb at 400 hours average life vs. only 200 hours with the more expensive 100-130% more light bulbs. But, those more expensive bulbs are closer to 45/45 watt like 50-60watt vs. this bulb being 67/60watt, should I be concerned? I will replace both since one burnt out sometime last month or so and guessing the other one is OEM from 2001 and will burn out soon as well. thought? let me know - appreciated!!!!
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I replaced the 55 Watt H3 Halogen Bulbs in my Twin Spotlights with 50 Watt, High Performance, H3 LED 360 Bulbs. Pathfinder Part No. 226-0003 -Pure White -6000K. The new bulbs will have a lower load on the alternator and they are really bright. I am going to change the Headlight Bulb as well with the same brand-"Pathfinder".
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Wow, old thread revival. I did end up finding really good Led bulbs for IS use - - adjustable angle (!), cooling fins are removable for installation and work with OEM dust covers (fit outside the covers, exposed to cool air). No overheating issues. Good beam angles Lo and Hi. Very bright, two bulbs in the bucket LIGHT UP the road like nothing I've experienced. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-160W-16000LM-LED-Headlight-Bulbs-Philips-H4-9003-Plug-Bulb-White-6000K-Hi-L-/142096084883?hash=item2115962f93:g:tzoAAOSwV0RXvWtI&vxp=mtrSee them for $36.42/pair on this page.
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I found these on sale for 15 bucks locally, will they work? https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9003-Vision-Upgrade-Headlight/dp/B00P2DB1EO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1511585105&sr=8-7&keywords=philips+9003I am worried since back of box states 67/60w vs. the standard 45 or 50 watt bulbs having issues with the clear lense getting too hot due to wattage. Is this a concern? I compared these to the more expensive 25 dollar on up philips 9003 and they were like 55-60 watts with 100-130% more light, but find my I/S with the original stock bulbs from 2001 are just fine assuming they are 45/45 watt bulbs. these offer only 30% more light but comparing the back of the more expensive say 100-130% more light bulbs at 10-20 bucks more per 2 pack although the light color goes from say 3200k to 4000k or so, the life expectancy is best with this bulb at 400 hours average life vs. only 200 hours with the more expensive 100-130% more light bulbs. But, those more expensive bulbs are closer to 45/45 watt like 50-60watt vs. this bulb being 67/60watt, should I be concerned? I will replace both since one burnt out sometime last month or so and guessing the other one is OEM from 2001 and will burn out soon as well. thought? let me know - appreciated!!!! no one answered my question yet if 67/60watt is too HOT or will this 15 bucks per pair bulbs work with no issues?
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