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FLAVALK
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« on: September 27, 2009, 04:50:17 PM »

After sitting in a closet for about a year, I dusted off the Audiovox CC and got it installed this weekend. **Thank you John Schmidt** for having a spare N/C relay on hand...you saved the day!

What a cool mod! I can't believe I waited this long to finally get it done.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 06:13:17 PM »

How 'bout a few pics ??
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 06:14:01 PM »

I hope the connection diagram I gave you helped and glad I could furnish the last necessary part. Just remember, Skycraft Surplus is like Toys R Us for men....if they don't have it, you don't need it.  Wink  I try to keep a couple extra of those relays around, I use two of them in my HD controls conversion and carry one with me on trips. I usually get the 5 pin version which has the 87A and 87 terminals. That way I can use them in just about any application whether it calls for N/C or N/O. All I have to do is make certain I use the correct terminal.

So, how does it work with no vacuum reservoir? Your upcoming ride to NC in the high country will tell the story. Give me a call and let me know how close it holds speed on the hills.

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FLAVALK
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 06:44:58 PM »

How 'bout a few pics ??


Sorry, no pics but I have some tips to share. First of all, I didn't use a vacuum canister, just ran vac hoses/check valves from two runnners (stole that tip from others on this site..thanks!). Second, I routed the servo cable along the top of the engine rather than along the frame. I created a large sweeping loop that terminated at the same bracket that everyone else seems to use. I secured the cable to the large air tube located direct on top of the engine. It took me all weekend to do the install. A lot of time was wasted trying to find a N/C relay. A bunch more time was wasted trying to figure out how to route the cable. I tried doing it as described in shop talk but found it to be much easier to do it the way I mentioned.

Now that the learning curve is behind me, I figure I could do an install in a days time.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 06:55:59 PM »

I hope the connection diagram I gave you helped and glad I could furnish the last necessary part. Just remember, Skycraft Surplus is like Toys R Us for men....if they don't have it, you don't need it.  Wink  I try to keep a couple extra of those relays around, I use two of them in my HD controls conversion and carry one with me on trips. I usually get the 5 pin version which has the 87A and 87 terminals. That way I can use them in just about any application whether it calls for N/C or N/O. All I have to do is make certain I use the correct terminal.

So, how does it work with no vacuum reservoir? Your upcoming ride to NC in the high country will tell the story. Give me a call and let me know how close it holds speed on the hills.



It works great here in the flat lands but the true test of the "no cannister" method will prove out it the hills. I'll be taking with me two more check valves, tubing and "T's" in case I need them.

No explaination required regarding Skycraft. I can spend hours in that place! What a great store!! I have my eye on battleship gun sighting device. As soon as that sucker goes on sale, it's MINE!

Thanks again John!!!
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 07:37:14 PM »

Just remember, Skycraft Surplus is like Toys R Us for men....if they don't have it, you don't need it.  Wink 

Now there's a blast from the past. As an EE i used to practically camp out at Skycraft when I lived in Winter Park.  cooldude
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 10:28:39 AM »

 cooldude
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 04:35:34 PM »

yep 10 hours for the first one my valk 4 hours for the wifes vt750 c 1 hour for the old gold wing no issues on any of them wish i could find the post to were to get spare parts it was on the old board ..hint hint
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2009, 08:29:35 AM »

So, how does it work with no vacuum reservoir? Your upcoming ride to NC in the high country will tell the story. Give me a call and let me know how close it holds speed on the hills.
It works great here in the flat lands but the true test of the "no cannister" method will prove out it the hills. I'll be taking with me two more check valves, tubing and "T's" in case I need them.

I ran without a canister for several years, and never had a problem due to that.  Granted, I live in the flats, but I visited enough hills to know.  If it got hilly enough to be working hard, it was twisty enough to not want the cruise engaged.
I did have a problem with it slowly bleeding off speed on long flat stretches, but I can't see that a vacuum canister would help that.  As soon as I gave it a boost, it would hold again.  It was almost like it forgot what it was doing, and me tweaking the throttle reminded it.
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Printer Mike
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2009, 09:09:20 AM »

Hope this question makes sense, but I can't wrap my brain around how the throttle grip would feel with the cruise engaged. Does the grip have play?
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2009, 09:13:01 AM »

My CC makes the throttle feel heavier... I have to be careful not to grip to tight, or rest too much weight on it, otherwise i'll end up goin 70 with the cruise on 55. But as far as play, I haven't noticed any.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2009, 09:25:49 AM »

The cruise pulls on the end of the throttle cable.  The throttle grip acts as if something is keeping the cable from pulling all the way back (which it is).  If it wasn't a two-way cable, you'd be able to twist the throttle grip the other way, just feeding excess cable out at the end, and not affecting anything.  As it is, you'd probably be able to force the grip back to normal idle, overcoming the cruise's pull, but I've never tried it.  Shouldn't be any more play than you have at idle, and probably less.
You could simulate this while parked, by finding the throttle linkage, and holding it open manually, then playing with the throttle grip.  Same effect.
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