Leaky clutch slave but i can't get screws off the top of the master reservoir

[SpidyJ]

Now the my fan motor is all sorted I notice my clutch slave is leaking.

Freakin' aluminium?!?!?

 (that was for you Britman)

....seized so tight I'm sure I'm gonna strip them.....should I drill them out or is it safe to give them a little heat?

[sandy]

Place the right size phillips in the screw and tap FIRMLY as you rotate. That might do it. Heat might ruin the seal on the sight glass.

[Bighead]

If sandy's suggestion doesn't work don't panic go to lowes and buy a Grab-it-pro and you will have it out in under ten seconds you will have to replace the screw but that isn't a problem. I replaced them on both my Valks brake and clutch side with Allen head screws and they come out much easier.

[Gideon]

I suggest you grind the tip down on the Phillips screw driver. You want the blades to fit down into the screw. The screws are Japanese. Your Phillips S/D is American.
Then follow Spidy's instructions.
I also recommend that you replace the Reservoir JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) Screws with 4mm X 12mm Chrome Allen Head Screws. Do it to both Front Brake and Clutch Reservoirs.  

[Gideon]

I meant Sandy's instructions. So sorry.

[Gryphon Rider]

Use the screwdriver from the bike's OEM tool kit.

[big poppa pump]

Use the screwdriver from the bike's OEM tool kit.

^^^^^^^^^^
What he said. Using a JIS bit really helps when you are dealing with the screws on the Valk. One of the reasons why I invested in some quality JIS bits. Haven't stripped a single head to date and never had a problem removing even the most stubborn screws.

[Chrisj CMA]

Now the my fan motor is all sorted I notice my clutch slave is leaking.

Freakin' aluminum?!?!?

 (that was for you Britman)

....seized so tight I'm sure I'm gonna strip them.....should I drill them out or is it safe to give them a little heat?

I believe that would be the Master cylinder NOT the slave.........just sayin.

As was stated there are three problems associated with removing these screws and the fix usually overcomes all three problems.

1. Those are not Phillips screws, they are JAL JIS (oops)
2. Dissimilar metals causes the screws to seize in the threads
3. The screws are crazy soft metal that strips easily.

So take a GOOD fitting screwdriver (especially if you don't have the Japanese ones like I don't) and tap on it with a hammer a few times.  This seats the screwdriver better in the screw, loosens a bind caused by dissimilar metals and reduces the chance of stripping that soft fastener.

Good luck

 

[SpidyJ]

Now the my fan motor is all sorted I notice my clutch slave is leaking.

Freakin' aluminum?!?!?

 (that was for you Britman)

....seized so tight I'm sure I'm gonna strip them.....should I drill them out or is it safe to give them a little heat?

I believe that would be the Master cylinder NOT the slave.........just sayin.

As was stated there are three problems associated with removing these screws and the fix usually overcomes all three problems.

1. Those are not Phillips screws, they are JAL JIS (oops)
2. Dissimilar metals causes the screws to seize in the threads
3. The screws are crazy soft metal that strips easily.

So take a GOOD fitting screwdriver (especially if you don't have the Japanese ones like I don't) and tap on it with a hammer a few times.  This seats the screwdriver better in the screw, loosens a bind caused by dissimilar metals and reduces the chance of stripping that soft fastener.

Good luck

 

Yes of course...it's the 2 screws on the master I'm talking about.....but it's MT now so the cover has to come off to fill and bleed after installing a new slave.  Thanks all....I will not be defeated! Guess I have to buy a new slave yeah?

[big poppa pump]

Now the my fan motor is all sorted I notice my clutch slave is leaking.

Freakin' aluminum?!?!?

 (that was for you Britman)

....seized so tight I'm sure I'm gonna strip them.....should I drill them out or is it safe to give them a little heat?

I believe that would be the Master cylinder NOT the slave.........just sayin.

As was stated there are three problems associated with removing these screws and the fix usually overcomes all three problems.

1. Those are not Phillips screws, they are JAL JIS (oops)
2. Dissimilar metals causes the screws to seize in the threads
3. The screws are crazy soft metal that strips easily.

So take a GOOD fitting screwdriver (especially if you don't have the Japanese ones like I don't) and tap on it with a hammer a few times.  This seats the screwdriver better in the screw, loosens a bind caused by dissimilar metals and reduces the chance of stripping that soft fastener.

Good luck

 

Yes of course...it's the 2 screws on the master I'm talking about.....but it's MT now so the cover has to come off to fill and bleed after installing a new slave.  Thanks all....I will not be defeated! Guess I have to buy a new slave yeah?

You don't need to buy anything new, you just have to rebuild your slave cylinder. More than likely you a lot of crud in there and your oil seal is shot. I've rebuilt the slave cylinders using a K&L rebuild kit and never had any issues to date. Just make sure you get the direction right when installing the new oil seal.

[Patrick]

Vibration is the key. If tapping/whacking the screwdriver doesn't help, a hand impact driver just might.

[gordonv]

Vibration is the key. If tapping/whacking the screwdriver doesn't help, a hand impact driver just might.

A little late, but that's what I did when wrecking my IS. Trying to remove the covers to drain the fluid out before draining/stripping the bike down, didn't know that the bike used JIL screw/bits. Bought an impact driver, figured how to use it, applied the twist, hit lightly with a hammer (repeat a little harder), and out they came.

[Gideon]

Glad things worked out.
Isn't this forum great !   

[da prez]

 Another way is to use valve lapping compound on the tip of the screwdriver (this refers to the senior mechanics) or a dip the tip of the screwdriver in oil and then in the grinding dust of your grinder. This will give added grab. I use a small blunt punch first to tap on the screw heads to jar them loose.
   A phillips screwdriver is a 37 degree tip where a JIS is a 45 degree. The phillips hits bottom before it hits the cross slots. In a pinch , I slightly ground back the tip , but it is best to invest in a set of JIS screwdrivers.

                                   da prez

[SpidyJ]

You don't need to buy anything new, you just have to rebuild your slave cylinder. More than likely you a lot of crud in there and your oil seal is shot. I've rebuilt the slave cylinders using a K&L rebuild kit and never had any issues to date. Just make sure you get the direction right when installing the new oil seal.
[/quote]

I'm gonna rebuild the Master and the Slave.....I've been searching/looking for the K&L kit numbers.....any help?  Wanna make sure I buy the correct kits.

thx
jaw

[big poppa pump]

You don't need to buy anything new, you just have to rebuild your slave cylinder. More than likely you a lot of crud in there and your oil seal is shot. I've rebuilt the slave cylinders using a K&L rebuild kit and never had any issues to date. Just make sure you get the direction right when installing the new oil seal.

I'm gonna rebuild the Master and the Slave.....I've been searching/looking for the K&L kit numbers.....any help?  Wanna make sure I buy the correct kits.

thx
jaw

http://www.ebay.com/itm/K-L-Master-Cylinder-Clutch-Rebuild-Kit-For-Honda-GL1200-GL1500-V65-Magna-Sabre-/231343283836?hash=item35dd225e7c:g:5~kAAOSw585WT9KM&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-GL1500CT-Valkyrie-Tourer-97-00-Clutch-Slave-Cylinder-Kit-/311663930681?hash=item48909e2d39

[SpidyJ]

You Da Man BPP......thanks for the links.

BTW...I go that buzztard screw out of the master...had to drill the head off and then the threaded part came out by hand....guess the beveled head was the part that was bound up.

Ordering the kits now........

[big poppa pump]

You Da Man BPP......thanks for the links.

BTW...I go that buzztard screw out of the master...had to drill the head off and then the threaded part came out by hand....guess the beveled head was the part that was bound up.

Ordering the kits now........

This kit has been a lifesaver for me. Best 30 bucks I ever spent......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RATCHET-BIT-SET-JIS-Vessel-509-/181705170924?hash=item2a4e78dfec:g:a1gAAOSwpDdVa6wq

[Bighead]

You Da Man BPP......thanks for the links.

BTW...I go that buzztard screw out of the master...had to drill the head off and then the threaded part came out by hand....guess the beveled head was the part that was bound up.

Ordering the kits now........

Grab-it-Pro ! I am telling you ten second removal of any screw.

[SpidyJ]

You Da Man BPP......thanks for the links.

BTW...I go that buzztard screw out of the master...had to drill the head off and then the threaded part came out by hand....guess the beveled head was the part that was bound up.

Ordering the kits now........

Grab-it-Pro ! I am telling you ten second removal of any screw.

   Any screw except the one in my clutch master cylinder.....although I coulda screwed sumthin' up I guess but the Grab-it Pro dint work for me!

[BlackValk (FL)]

I had the same problem on my 2001 Interstate. I GENTLY USED  a "impact tool" with the correct phillips bit. These impact tools ( mine is a small brother to one I used on farm tractors ) simply need a LIGHT TAP on top and the screw loosens right up. Read again: LIGHT TAP! The "tap" causes rotation of the bit. Be sure you have it set to loosen, not tighten! I bought the small tool at Sears.

Blackvalk (Venice Florida)

[Bighead]

You Da Man BPP......thanks for the links.

BTW...I go that buzztard screw out of the master...had to drill the head off and then the threaded part came out by hand....guess the beveled head was the part that was bound up.

Ordering the kits now........

Grab-it-Pro ! I am telling you ten second removal of any screw.

   Any screw except the one in my clutch master cylinder.....although I coulda screwed sumthin' up I guess but the Grab-it Pro dint work for me!

If it didn't work you were useing it wrong. I have removed many many screws with mine and never not had it work.