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« on: September 03, 2016, 07:22:27 AM » |
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hi,
Replace the petcock on my pearl white and red 97 … Gas was leaking out when I inverted the tank so I placed a gallon water bottle under it.. After completing the petcock repair flip to the tank over noticed bright green stains all over the pearl white paint…
Does anybody know how to remove them or what I should use?
I'm going crazy I have to get the stains out.
Thank you.
Whiskey bravo
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2016, 07:39:55 AM » |
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Green stains...sounds like oxydized copper...I am no chemist but maybe try a bit of brass/silver polish ...test a very small area first.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2016, 07:43:38 AM » |
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Inverted the tank, really? I actually thought this was a joke. Who would turn a gas tank full of gas upside down?
Aluminum polish and a soft rag.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2016, 07:52:38 AM » |
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Inverted the tank, really? I actually thought this was a joke. Who would turn a gas tank full of gas upside down?
Aluminum polish and a soft rag.
Hey...be nice...just the Aluminum Polish suggestion would have been sufficient. |
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2016, 08:15:32 AM » |
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come on man!… The tank was not full. It was on reserve and to sturdy the tank I used one of those 1 gallon water bottles. I think it reacted with the gas and made fluorescent green stain on the white paint… I'm scared to use anything too harsh on the paint…
do you think rubbing compound may be a good idea?
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2016, 08:22:24 AM » |
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come on man!… The tank was not full. It was on reserve and to sturdy the tank I used one of those 1 gallon water bottles. I think it reacted with the gas and made fluorescent green stain on the white paint… I'm scared to use anything too harsh on the paint…
do you think rubbing compound may be a good idea?
Whatever you do...try a small area first. The longer it sits on your paint the harder it will be to remove. My suggestion...talk to someone at a ""reputable"" car detailing shop if you are hesitant to tackle it yourself. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2016, 08:53:03 AM » |
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Next time, drain the tank. What I've used in the past is quite simple; sawhorses! Set the tank upright on a pair of sawhorses, if you need it higher just to r&r the petcock then set the horses on a couple old chairs or similar. Then you can sit on a little rolling shop stool and work at shoulder height. One guy I know sets his tank stand on his bike lift, raises it up to near eye level and works on it while standing. If you should dribble some gas you can always put a can on the floor to catch it. I've given some thought to making a small stand solely for the purpose of holding the tank upright, and being able to bolt it down to prevent it from falling. Decided it wasn't warranted, and I've become lazy with the passing of the years.  |
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2016, 10:14:39 AM » |
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come on man!… The tank was not full. It was on reserve and to sturdy the tank I used one of those 1 gallon water bottles. I think it reacted with the gas and made fluorescent green stain on the white paint… I'm scared to use anything too harsh on the paint…
do you think rubbing compound may be a good idea?
Rubbing compound probably more harsh than metal polish. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2016, 10:47:42 AM » |
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Just start with cleaner wax.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2016, 10:49:30 AM » |
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Why not try a dampen a rag in gas (in a well vented area).
Alcohol?
Your favorite flavor of glue remover? (mind not working for the name, WD40, etc..)
Wax/grease remover?
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2016, 10:49:38 AM » |
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Think of your clearcoat as a protective hard plastic finish,, lets say it is 10 inches thick. WHen you get a "stain" it is usually not on the clearcoat, it is into the surface of the clearcoat,, depending on the chemical reaction, it may be 1/2 inch deep, or 5 inches deep. Polishing compounds (for fine removal) and rubbing compounds (for aggressive removal) will remove some of the clearcoat and provide a smooth surface if applied properly, that is what they are formulated to do. In this case, I would start with a scratch and swirl remover (3 or 4 bucks at Walmart) applied by hand and see if it will do the trick,, if not you step up to a more aggressive compound and maybe a machine. Be careful, you can burn right through a paint job with mis applied tools and compounds. DOn't wait too long, the chemical reaction may still be going on.
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2016, 11:27:14 AM » |
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Thank you everyone,
I tried using the chrome polish, but it didn't work… I'm scared I may do more damage if I continue trying anything else… I'll have to bring it someplace and see if they can get it out…
Again, thank you for the kind words and suggestions.
They were and still are greatly appreciated.
Whiskey Bravo
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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2016, 12:10:59 PM » |
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Thank you everyone,
I tried using the chrome polish, but it didn't work… I'm scared I may do more damage if I continue trying anything else… I'll have to bring it someplace and see if they can get it out…
Again, thank you for the kind words and suggestions.
They were and still are greatly appreciated.
Whiskey Bravo
Chrome polish and aluminum polish are not the same. Try some aluminum polish gently |
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« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2016, 12:22:39 PM » |
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After cleaning & polishing with whatever and the stain remains, just leave it in the sun for some time periods and keep an eye on it. Will probably disappear on it's own. Don't make things worse by over working on it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2016, 05:12:33 PM » |
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???? chrome polish and aluminum polish ?? Guys,,, Your not working on chromium or aluminum, it's your urethane paint job. Get a polish or rubbing compound that is formulated for paint. DOn't make it worse.
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2016, 05:30:34 PM » |
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???? chrome polish and aluminum polish ?? Guys,,, Your not working on chromium or aluminum, it's your urethane paint job. Get a polish or rubbing compound that is formulated for paint. DOn't make it worse.
Well I've used mothers and turtle wax all metal/aluminum polish for mild blemishes for years and years with no ill effects. I wouldn't recommend something I haven't proven. Used gently it has never caused a problem  Been shining on this baby for 14 years and used the aluminum polish trick many times and there is no way anyone could tell where no matter how careful they may look |
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2016, 05:50:43 PM » |
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I know this is going to sound dummer than a bag of hammer's
but try Avon Skin So Soft. It removes glue-paint residue and most all
else I have tried it for. If I had a Springfield Armory 40 caliber
pistol and didn't like the big old sticker on the carrying case I
may have tried Goo be gone-WD40-Alcohol which all didn't work.
After my wife who sells Avon saw me struggling with it she
brought me a bottle of Skin So Soft to try out.
After only a few minutes the sticker was all gone without a trace.
I won't laugh at her ideas anymore.
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pancho
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2016, 05:28:36 AM » |
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Gotta admit, your red and white looks pretty clean Chris... Sounds like you have discovered a solution for small spots in the clearcoat, I am thinking W B may have an extensive stain. Are those double French doors so you can roll your bike into the house?
W B, if you go to a paint shop, or a high end detailing shop, they will be able to remove your stain if it is not completely through the clearcoat. They will have the correct products, tools, and do it every day, probably will take five minutes.
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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2016, 05:45:22 AM » |
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Gotta admit, your red and white looks pretty clean Chris... Sounds like you have discovered a solution for small spots in the clearcoat, I am thinking W B may have an extensive stain. Are those double French doors so you can roll your bike into the house?
W B, if you go to a paint shop, or a high end detailing shop, they will be able to remove your stain if it is not completely through the clearcoat. They will have the correct products, tools, and do it every day, probably will take five minutes.
Thanks Pancho...yes the cobra bike gets to park in the family room, this is the other side of the French doors  |
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« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2016, 06:48:44 AM » |
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HA No wonder that bike stays so clean,,,
W B , was wondering about the "1 gallon water bottles" you used to rest the tank on, was it like the material of a one gallon milk jug?? The basecoat, pearlcoat, and clear coat materials from the factory are all catalyst cured urethane products, any chemical reaction that will permeate one, can also do the others. I would be curious to know the end result when you take it to someone,, and also the material the water bottle is made from, or a retail description to track it down just to see what really happened there.
I'm hoping you just have a surface stain, and it is easily removable.
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2016, 07:33:14 AM » |
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HA No wonder that bike stays so clean,,,
Well, yes it helps, but I only ride it outside just like everyone else. And living in Florida I do get caught in rain. I seldom leave out on a ride knowing it's going to rain or when it is raining unless it's something I am committed to already like a pgr mission or a trip that just has to happen. |
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pancho
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« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2016, 07:59:26 AM » |
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Yep, I lived there twice years ago,,, once on the East coast, once on the West,, I remember on the East coast you could almost set you watch by the rain starting in the late spring/summertime afternoon.... it was nice
I'm with you, I usually don't ride in the rain unless I get caught in it. It takes a lot less time keeping the bike clean. Here, spring through summer, it is insects,, sometimes completely coating the surfaces that catch them. Not a good idea to leave them on paint or plastic any longer than necessary.
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« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2016, 10:23:30 AM » |
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This would potentially be helpful... http://www.flitz.com/flitz-polish-paste/ Don't make things worse by over working on it. what he said... -Mike |
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« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2016, 08:30:23 AM » |
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I had gas leak down my tank on the HD Electraglide and I cleaned and cleaned and never got it that way. Over time it faded on it's own, I guess from being out in the sun, etc.. In my case it looked like the gas soaked into the clear coat and became part of it. So, all the scrubbing and all the tears in the world didn't touch it. Thankfully it just eventually faded to the point where you wouldn't see it if you weren't looking for it. That was on a cream colored paint but, it showed on the gold too. I feel ya man.
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