Tundra
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« on: September 30, 2009, 06:07:42 AM » |
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I'm on my second Dyna-Ignition. The first one was sent back and replaced free of charge. It would run rough and miss when hot (over 93 degree air temp) combined with a hot engine, (running constantly more than 1 hour). This could be fixed by "re-booting", shutting the bike off and then re-starting. Still, a pain in the arse. I've read much controversy about these, also see some seem to get many problem free miles. I have a new problem now and I'm wondering if this is also "Dyna-related". When cold starting, starter just spins. I simply put my stock ICM back in and it fired right up. I then re-installed my Dyna and that worked also??? This has happened several times, although I have not pin-pointed this problem to the dyna. (batteries good)  My question is (finaly), What types of problems have you Dyna users experienced? Does this sound like a dyna problem? I LOVE my Dyna if and when it's working, I fear it's just not reliable. |
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 06:41:53 AM » |
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the engine just spins or the starter spins with no engine spin?
I use the dyna had similar problem was the short wire curves of the connection harness. one wire broke, fixed it 5k later no problems. Talked to dyna about failures since I was using CBR1100XX coils which meet their ohm range, however they said heat is what will shorten the life of the unit esp from coils with too low an ohm range. one thing I did was eliminate the oem boot that holds the unit and made an aluminum bracket and attached the dyna to it, actually that is what the screws on the side are for and the ribs on its case to disipate heat. will see if all of this helps since it was being replaced every 2 yrs. Plan on getting thier new smaller coils which have a 3 ohm rating which will lower the internal heat generation also. will try to get pics this wknd posted.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 06:43:41 AM » |
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Not familiar with the Dyna but it sounds like it could be a connection problem.
Removing and replacing has restored the connection.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 07:17:24 AM » |
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I've had mine for about 10,000 miles. The only problem I have experienced is where it will bog, sorta like your running out of fuel. Someone else had mentioned this on this board and so I knew what to do... just pull in the clutch, switch the ignition on/of, and restart. That clears it up. This has only happened to me about 3 times in 2 years, and hasnt happened for a long time.
Never had any kind of starting problems...
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 05:46:26 PM » |
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If you look there is a led on the end with the knobs, when you crank it over you will see the light flash indicating that it registering the pickups. If it does this then the unit will most likely fire and your problem is somewhere else. If it doesn't flash then you have to start to see if the connections into the unit may not be making good contact. The pins on the Dyna are slightly smaller than the factory and sometime don't make a good connection. By tightening the connections carefully this can be easily fixed.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 08:18:23 PM » |
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are not properly gapped. I don't remember what they should be set at but it's in the manual.
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Tundra
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2009, 03:58:55 AM » |
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Thanks for the good replies...
I have narrowed it down to the Dyna-ignition.
Robert, How would I tighten the connection? I see a plug, it's either in all the way, and locks into place, or not? I don't understand how I could make it any tighter? Thanks
Slammer, Thanks good thought. I had a friend who inadvertantly bumped/moved his pulse generators while changing belts and created a no start problem. Forgot about that, although I have not been inside the cover for maintanance.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2009, 04:14:49 AM » |
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My experience with the Dyna, number one it didn't like my 6 deg. trigger wheel. The bike wouldn't even start, put the stock module back in and it ran fine. So I took out the trigger wheel and the Dyna ran fine for a while. Then every so often it would run like it was running out of gas, shut down the bike and restarted and it was good for awhile. Got tired of it and realized that the Dyna was not dependable I got rid of it and put in a I/S module in and never had any more problems. I think the Dyna is an expensive problem, but some people have good luck with it. Just what you need to be cruising out in Outerskabobia and have the bike barf on you.
Dan
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2009, 06:12:33 AM » |
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Dan,
Thanks for your input, sadly to say, I'm with you. Just plain sick of messing with it. I think I'll be going to a trigger wheel and IS/ICM.
Just what you need to be cruising out in Outerskabobia and have the bike barf on you. Hell bike could barf on you in East PennsslyTucky, or South Kackalacky for that matter.
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« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2009, 07:11:12 AM » |
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Dan,
Thanks for your input, sadly to say, I'm with you. Just plain sick of messing with it. I think I'll be going to a trigger wheel and IS/ICM.
Just what you need to be cruising out in Outerskabobia and have the bike barf on you. Hell bike could barf on you in East PennsslyTucky, or South Kackalacky for that matter.
I had much the same problem and put up with it for two months and went with the I/S ICM and a 4 deg. trigger wheel. That was over five years ago and haven't looked back since. Problems since then....zip, zero, nada. And it gives me all the scoot I'll ever need along with good mileage....if I behave that is.  |
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Tundra
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2009, 03:38:03 PM » |
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Hi John, I tried to ride this morning with the Dyna one last time, since it DID start this morning...Well, that didn't work so well. I was stranded again. Changed out the unit back to stock ICM and just got home to post this, rode all day, no more problems. Starts everytime quickly, as soon as I touch the starter button. I don't even here the starter spinning anymore, instant ignition.
Valuble lesson...one thing this "performance" ignition lacks is "PERFORMANCE" Oh well, that was a several hundred dollar mistake.
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« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2009, 04:18:13 PM » |
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Hi John, I tried to ride this morning with the Dyna one last time, since it DID start this morning...Well, that didn't work so well. I was stranded again. Changed out the unit back to stock ICM and just got home to post this, rode all day, no more problems. Starts everytime quickly, as soon as I touch the starter button. I don't even here the starter spinning anymore, instant ignition.
Valuble lesson...one thing this "performance" ignition lacks is "PERFORMANCE" Oh well, that was a several hundred dollar mistake.
normally dyna will give u a free replacement. give them a call. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2009, 04:35:25 PM » |
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had similar issues 2 modules I am now dealing with dyna tek for money back as unit was only 6 months old and they have no more and are not making unit for valk if you bought module within last 2yrs they did not make it it was sub out to china and dyna realized product no good and stopped production
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2009, 05:11:50 PM » |
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I really think that you have made your mind up but the pins inside the connection need to be tightened. The icm has the male end and the plug has the female end its the female end that you take a sharp pic and bend the wall in ever so slightly. To much and you wont be able to connect and may damage the plug to little and it speaks for itself. I like you got tired of messing around with the Dyna and modified my wheel and put a interstate icm on and its not the dyna but it does run. Not to mention I can dial in the amount of advance with a few minuets work easily.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2009, 05:44:06 PM » |
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Hi John, I tried to ride this morning with the Dyna one last time, since it DID start this morning...Well, that didn't work so well. I was stranded again. Changed out the unit back to stock ICM and just got home to post this, rode all day, no more problems. Starts everytime quickly, as soon as I touch the starter button. I don't even here the starter spinning anymore, instant ignition.
Valuble lesson...one thing this "performance" ignition lacks is "PERFORMANCE" Oh well, that was a several hundred dollar mistake.
So does that mean you're going to try and make it to the BBQ joint this Saturday? I want to real bad, partly because I haven't had a good ride since the end of May. But if the rain chances stay high I probably won't ride. |
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2009, 02:32:09 PM » |
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John, the wife is off this weekend and politely asked if I could alter my plans as I had logged 700 miles on the clock this week.
(even with the down time) fair enough. Enjoy the ride, take some pics!
This week has been beautiful, 68 degrees in the am, great Florida riding!!! I'm making a trip pics album for Florida intracoastal Waterways, trying to include most bridges. Should have it posted next week some time.
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2009, 06:27:35 AM » |
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For those of you following this post...I contacted
"Cruiser Customizing" and explained my problem, they said send it back for a full refund, no questions asked. Now that's customer service" I never expected it to be that easy, they just got a customer for life! (I bought this in April), that was six months ago!
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