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Author Topic: Learned something on the Naked Gold Wing board today.  (Read 1142 times)
John Schmidt
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a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike

De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« on: October 08, 2016, 06:20:21 PM »

The engine I installed in the 1200 is out of an '85 Limited which means it was an FI version. I removed all that hardware and converted it to carbs, runs fine and starts at the first bump of the start button. The Limited engine has a higher output alternator, a 490 watt unit as opposed to the '84 Std. original 360 watt output. At first I thought that was the cause of me reading a charging voltage of 15.30+ across the battery posts, much too high and would eventually ruin either my new AGM battery or the regulator....or both. I posed the question on the NGW board and two things were suggested. First, try a good ground from the regulator body to the neg. post on the battery. Tried it....no change. Next was something referred to as the "sensor" wire, a black wire coming off the regulator and senses voltage levels, thereby causing the regulator to either ramp up the charge or bleed off the excess which causes a drop in charging....i.e., a fully charged battery.  If the connections located in the main harness for that wire happen to be the least bit corroded or dirty, anything to impede, then the wire senses a lower voltage and ramps up the output of the regulator. The fix is simple, pull the wire out of the connector on the reg. and run a temporary jumper to the positive post. If that was the problem, the charge will drop accordingly.

You could have knocked me over with a feather. I had replaced that rather large connector on the reg. and polished/cleaned all the pins before ass'y.  But when I pulled the wire out and ran a jumper over to the battery positive post and cranked up the bike, the charging voltage was now 14.25+/-. Right where I needed it. Whoever figured that out saved me some $$ for either a new regulator or a second new battery....or both. Apparently there is a bad connection elsewhere in the harness the wire was sensing, so by doing the jumper it merely isolated it from the system. So, today I went to school....clear as mud, right?   Wink
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_Sheffjs_
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Jerry & Sherry Sheffer

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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2016, 06:40:44 PM »

Good read John!   cooldude   Always room to learn something new. 
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Danny McMillin
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 07:27:27 PM »

Glad you got some free education!! Dem boys on NGW are knowledgeble, and helpful! Cudos to that bunch!!
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Robert
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 03:57:44 AM »

You have to know the ins and outs of what your working on. Its so nice someone else did the searching for you saves alot of time in diagnosing.
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John Schmidt
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a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike

De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 07:01:13 AM »

Robert, one of the members actually did a Madam Curie thing....stumbled across one possible cure by accident some time back. He had a dead battery so used one hooked up with jumper cables and just set it on the floor. His charging went through the roof. He moved the battery closer to the bike and the neg. post was touching the frame....charging dropped to normal. For him it was the ground path which was the first thing I tried....a solid ground from the regulator to the neg. post but no change. Another guy frequents a different forum and spoke of a different problem....the black sensor wire and what it took to cure that.

Yesterday afternoon I experimented with attaching that black wire to a switched 12v source, that caused a jump of over 1/2v from the 14.20's to 14.99-15.03. So while it was still running I pulled the wire and touched the positive post on the battery again. The charge dropped back down to the 14.20's so that's were it's staying. At least that will tell the reg. exactly what the battery charge level is at all times. The help those guys give reminds me of the VRCC Tech Board.
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