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clanky
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« on: October 27, 2016, 09:45:27 AM »

This group of riders is a fantastic resource!  Thanks!
I've been reading a lot of posts pertaining to rear end drive issues. 
I've got a 98 basic Valk with 115K miles on her and was wondering if I should tear into the drive components just for a look?  I am of the old school " if it's not broke don't mess with it".
I've got no problems with drive system,  should I stick to my old school policy?
When I have rear tire replaced ( 15+ times) I always ask the mechanic to inspect and make sure he lubes the splines before reassembly.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2016, 10:16:15 AM »

You're exactly right, if it aint broke don't fix it until it is  cooldude
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2016, 10:17:55 AM »

I have 170k on my 99 IS...and the same rear end.  About every 10k or so (I have a car tire...so it isn't every tire change), I remove the rear end and check everything I can...Rear Flange, Pinion Cup, Drive Shaft, U-Joint...and make sure everything looks good.  If something looks questionable...I replace it then.  So far, I have only had to change the u-joint, and pinion cup.  The rear flange looks great!  When you put it back together, apply moly grease (or some other quality waterproof grease) to the rear flange, check the o-rings associated with the rear flange, clean out the pinion cup and make sure the holes are clear.  I usually put a very thin coating of moly on the pinion cup but it is supposed to get most of its lubrication from the rear end.  Make sure the seal for the pinion cup seats well in the cup and on the shaft.  

I change out the rear end fluid every other year or so...so about 20-30k miles.  

With a little tender loving care...these things will go forever...or damn close to it.  

Joe
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2016, 10:38:45 AM »

I do the same as Joe. cooldude
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2016, 10:54:45 AM »

I also asked the mechanic to lub everything and guess what? He didn't.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2016, 10:58:30 AM »

I also asked the mechanic to lub everything and guess what? He didn't.

Exactly why the only parts a mechanic touches on my bike are the wheel and the tire.  Just mount and balance please, that's it, Ill do the rest!
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 12:00:11 PM »

I also asked the mechanic to lub everything and guess what? He didn't.

Exactly why the only parts a mechanic touches on my bike are the wheel and the tire.  Just mount and balance please, that's it, Ill do the rest!
I don't even let them balance...I put the beads in myself.   Cool
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2016, 01:19:40 PM »

...also tighten the 4 nuts that hold the pumpkin onto the swing arm AFTER you torque the axle.

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2016, 06:47:33 AM »

   One of the last bikes I bought was maintained by Honda. The p/o took it in for everything. He had just had it serviced about 5000 miles before I bought it. I pulled the bike down as there was a lot of cosmetic repairs needed. I pulled the rear end and the driveshaft was toast. The rear end was drier than a popcorn fart. The O-rings were melted (first time for everything.) It is not the first bike I have worked on that was skipped lubed. Do it yourself or learn how. I trust very few to touch my bike.

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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2016, 07:15:24 AM »

Worst case scenario:  http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,89686.msg884036.html#msg884036

Cliff's Notes: Periodically replace the grease seal on the drive shaft ($7). If seal fails and you ride in the rain a lot as I do, expect failure of pinion cup and drive shaft splines in <14,000 miles.

Learn from my mistake and my over-extended grease interval.
Or as I always tell my boys, "Don't do that".
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016, 10:09:32 AM »

This reminds me of a story.  I recently sold my 1988 Harley FLHTC Electraglide.  In my old age I had started growing lazy, or tired.  I went to HD for a set of tires and I asked the guy if he would repack the wheel bearings when they did the tires.  He indicated that he didn't know what I was talking about, re-pack bearings?  I had to explain to the HD shop that older bikes had awesome tapered roller bearings and if maintained will last almost forever.  Then I ordered my tires from Amazon.com and mounted them on the rims myself and repacked my bearings.  Used balance beads rather than weights. 

Lesson is, just because a mechanic works at the official store don't mean they know what to do.  Which sucks as I get older and too lazy to spend hours busting my knuckles on the bike/car.  I do it but, I don't enjoy it anymore. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2016, 01:18:04 PM »

This reminds me of a story.  I recently sold my 1988 Harley FLHTC Electraglide.  In my old age I had started growing lazy, or tired.  I went to HD for a set of tires and I asked the guy if he would repack the wheel bearings when they did the tires.  He indicated that he didn't know what I was talking about, re-pack bearings?  I had to explain to the HD shop that older bikes had awesome tapered roller bearings and if maintained will last almost forever.  Then I ordered my tires from Amazon.com and mounted them on the rims myself and repacked my bearings.  Used balance beads rather than weights. 

Lesson is, just because a mechanic works at the official store don't mean they know what to do.  Which sucks as I get older and too lazy to spend hours busting my knuckles on the bike/car.  I do it but, I don't enjoy it anymore.  +


That's a SCARY story!!!
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