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Author Topic: Old Alarm Removal  (Read 934 times)
Karen
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« on: November 06, 2016, 12:04:07 PM »

After 17 years, my old Magnadyne Marksman MA660M has become dysfunctional, and I'll be replacing it with a Gorilla unit. I thought if I just disconnected the alarm module from the wiring, it'd be fine, but the bike won't start. Could it be the Ignition Disable Relay, and could I fix this by temporarily splicing the two wires involved in this circuit together and then removing the alarm module? Thanks for your thoughts!
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pancho
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2016, 03:07:31 PM »

That may be it Karen, but I would want to see the installation wiring diagram for the  Magnadyne Marksman MA660M before I twisted wires together. Do you still have it?
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Karen
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2016, 04:08:08 PM »

Thanks, Pancho, I do have a copy of the original instructions; it shows the two wires (Yellow, and Black/White), Yellow going to the ignition switch, and the Black/White going to the ignition coil. It also shows the OEM wire between the coil and switch having to be cut for the installation. There is a specific note not to reverse the two wires. I thought that if I just splice the Yellow and Black/White wires together, disconnected from the alarm assembly, it should serve the same function as the original wire, but don't know if length would be an issue... Thanks again!
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Skinhead
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2016, 04:11:45 PM »

Length shouldn't matter.  If those are the original wires, that were cut to add the module, splicing them together (like color to like color) should return it to normal.  (I think).
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Karen
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2016, 04:52:19 PM »

Thanks, Skinhead,  I'll give it a try tomorrow. The thing goes off with no rhyme or reason, and the clicker won't shut it off, either.
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pancho
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2016, 05:01:53 PM »

I agree with what Skinhead said,, I don't think you can go wrong by putting the original cut wire back together.  
I'm not clear on your description, but  if you are saying connect yellow to yellow, and black/white to black/white, then I think you are good to go.  Protect the connections with tape, crimps or something after your done Karen and you should be good to go.
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Karen
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2016, 05:45:16 PM »

I'm actually going to connect the two wires from the alarm unit, rather than disturb the wiring trying to find the original wire. I'll get them as close as I can to the original wire, should be OK, thanks again for the input!
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2016, 08:31:40 AM »

Karen, I'm sure nothing will happen, just let us know what the insurance company gives you.  2funny

Just yanking that chain a bit.  Wink
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Karen
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2016, 05:25:56 PM »

It worked! Alarm totally disconnected, and the trike starts! Sorry John, but it has a drive shaft...  Kiss
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2016, 07:14:25 PM »

It worked! Alarm totally disconnected, and the trike starts! Sorry John, but it has a drive shaft...  Kiss
I know, but I was pulling your chain....not the bike's. Glad it worked out for you, kinda like when I first started the Model T engine I repaired as a teenager. Told my dad I was sorta confident it would run OK but wasn't absolutely certain. His answer...."well son, if you've tested everything then just crank it up and see if it smokes."  I did....it didn't. Except I had forgot to put in a method of killing the spark off the mag. That's when I learned how to short something out....always put the screwdriver blade to the block first, THEN tip it back to touch the pickup plug. I did it the other way around and it shorted out the ignition through me to the ground....felt like my arm had just been amputated. The spark jumped from the metal blade to my hand which was holding the wooden handle. First and only time I ever swore in front of my dad....and all he could do was laugh.  Grin
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Hook#3287
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2016, 03:19:44 AM »

It worked! Alarm totally disconnected, and the trike starts! Sorry John, but it has a drive shaft... 
glad you got it figured out.  I was going to offer moral support, cause when it comes to electrical advice, I got nothing.

Looks like today will be a great day to see if you got it right, hope you get some wind.
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