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Law Dawg
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« on: November 15, 2016, 01:24:06 PM »

I've asked this question before and got some good responses.....I have a 2014 GL1800C Valkyrie, has less then 2,000 miles on it....I went to a Honda dealership to get 4qts of 10W-30 Amsoil...I use Amsoil in my Voyager as well.....They didn't have any 10W-30, so I asked the parts guy if they had any 10W-30, he said no, so I told him what I have, he said 10W-40 would be fine to put in it..He then asked how many miles I had on it? I told him alittle less than 2,000 miles, he said not to switch to full synthetic until I have at least 8,000 miles on it....
My buddy has the same bike and he's been running Rotella, he didn't wait until he had 8,000 miles on it....So, with this said, what's the word from you other 1800 Valkyrie owners? Do I wait or does it even matter what the mileage is....
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98valk
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2016, 01:53:11 PM »

doesn't matter. parts guy, stay away from them.
 any 10w30 diesel oil will work better and at a lower cost.
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dinosnake
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2016, 02:03:49 PM »

Oil is one of the most argued-about items in all of motorcycling.  You're opening up a can of worms, infested with a nest of fire ants.  Grin

The only things I can say are:

- it seems that mechanics and racers commonly state that break-in occurs well within the first 1,000 miles, maybe even less, contrary to the old break-in myth patterns.  Older technology in machining required the long break-ins for all surfaces, such as transmission gears et al, but the surface finishing quality of modern machinery is way above such levels.  Even Popular Mechanics did an article about it, pretty much stating that long break-ins are a thing of the past.

- I have always driven my vehicles from the first day as if I was using them every day.  Very little, to no, break-in, maybe 200 to 500 miles tops.  Then change the oil.  I have NEVER had a single vehicle (and all my cars were turbocharged) ever use a single drop of oil or suffered from a single mechanical failure due to oil-type problems (never, ever ever a spun bearing, low compression, low power, thrown rod, engine knock, seizure, etc etc).

Actually, my very first car, so long ago. was a dealer demo turbo and I could tell that it had too soft of a break-in because it shifted a valve seal, causing low compression.  After they replaced the head I broke it in my way, drive it normally from almost the first day (OK, don't pound on it, but don't baby it either) and I never had another problem like that, ever again.

- I switched to Honda synthetic at my first oil change at 600 miles.  My bike's tranny did not like it, pops out of 1st / stiff second.  Switched to Rotella T6, loves is muchly, no problems whatsoever and does not burn or lose one single drop of oil (14.5 months old, 14,500 miles).

So YMMV and take it with a huge cupful of salt.

I would switch, I actually did myself with absolutely no problems.
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98valk
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2016, 03:12:56 PM »

break-in
http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

and when I was at marysville factory, GL1800 coming off the line went right onto a dyno and rev'd hard up to 60 mph in every gear while operator sitting on bike was doing all types of checks. hondas last forever, don't they?
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zackod
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2016, 03:15:11 PM »

Personally I'd stick to the oil spec in the Owners Manual.  "API Service Classification SG or Higher.   SAE 10W-30".   So not just any old 10w-30 oil   First change recommended at 4,000 miles or 6 months (clock starts from the time the bike first sold/ridden), then every 8,000 miles or 1 year.   If the Valk is past 6 months first ridden, manual says change now.    Note advise brought to u by an owner whose Valk is at the dealer getting it's trans rebuilt with dealer hinting caused by owners bad shifting habits.
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Law Dawg
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2016, 04:55:11 PM »

Thanks to all who commented on this oil thing......I was leaning towards Amsoil, which I use in my 2010 Voyager, no issues what so ever but my buddy has the same Valk as me and he endurance races, he uses the Rotella T6 in his 2014 Valkyrie, he has never had an issue and sears by it to...Besides, it's much cheaper that Amsoil......

Thanks again to everyone
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Adirondack Bill
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2016, 06:09:12 AM »

Law Dawg- I heard the same thing from the dealer- don't switch to full synthetic oil until you have several thousand miles on the bike. After putting about 2,500 miles on my Valk., I noticed that shifting was not so smooth. I switched to Amsoil Synthetic "metric- motorcycle" oil- 10w-40, and the bike shifted much better. You can use any synthetic oil, but it should be an oil made for Motorcycles.
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Robert
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2016, 06:14:57 AM »

Switched at about 2k 15k now all good  cooldude
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brew1brew
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2016, 11:33:04 AM »

I run Castrol ACTEVO X-TRA 4T, part-synthetic. I switched at 8k. The bike runs cool and shifts smooth.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2016, 05:32:44 PM »

I ran mine like I stole it for the first 700 miles... Then changed the filter and oil.  I went full synthetic on that first change, cause that's what I use in my Triumph Triple (called out in the manual) and I had a good bit of it in my work shop.

20K+ miles now (and a few oil changes later)... and the Wing has never burned a drop.  Including 90+ mph super slab for multiple days straight. 

Bottom line... this engine is rock solid.  Doesn't matter how you run it or what oil you use (as long as it is wet clutch safe). 

I'm convinced you could pour peanut oil in there and it'll be fine... (I'm not going to try it though...)  cooldude 

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