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SteveC
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« on: January 15, 2017, 10:42:42 AM »

Im replacing the stock grips in my 1800 with Kuryakin grips.  I've never changed grips before, any advice?  I'm assuming the removal process is different for each side?
Thanks,
Steve
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_Sheffjs_
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2017, 11:33:06 AM »

If I remember right the right side Chrome end cap unscrews and the left side end cap pops off. Unless I'm getting confused with the 1500 but I think they are the same.

I like to slide a thin regular screw driver in between the grip and h-bar and use an air nozzle and 120 psi and it pops off. Honda grip glue the new ones on after a good clean of the throttle tube and bar.  Maybe you are replaceing the throttle tube?  
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2017, 01:15:28 PM »

I found that an ice pick is the best tool for the job, least likely to booger anything up. After the end caps are off.

My compressor is so under powered it barely blows up my dolls.

If I want to save the ones coming off, I work the ice pick in, sister up/in the long skinny nozzle on a can of brake cleaner or WD40 or gummout carb cleaner (best) right next to the ice pick, and give it a squirt.  Then wiggle the pick in deeper.  Work around at say 12, 4, and 8 O'clock and the grip slides right off.  

But I don't ever plan to reuse stock grips, so then I just use a utility razor knife and slice them down the side (careful on the throttle sleeve), shoot a little solvent under the edges and peel them off and throw them away. (I've actually saved a few sliced up ones, as small pieces of that stuff make good cushions or bumpers in other small projects)

Rough up your chrome on the left side with harsh sandpaper so the grip glue works better.  I may do that a little to the plastic throttle sleeve, carefully.  

With Kury Iso grips (unlike OEs), you want the rubbers under the working parts of your hands (palms and fingerends), and you want the rubbers on both sides to match in position.  So I've been reluctant to use super glue or grip glue or anything that hardens up so fast if you don't get it right in 2-3 seconds you are screwed.  

So I use clear RTV sealant, which gives you all the time you want to position them just so.  And easier to clean up than sticky glue (which can glue the throttle to the control housing above it if not careful) (loosen that housing and slide it up a bit for easier cleanup if the handlebar allows it) (no need on the left grip).  If for any reason, one or both grips need to come off and then be stuck back on, working with dried rubbery RTV is always easier than super glue.

I've also discovered with Kurys, you get a light amount of sticky stuff with more near the end of the bar and less up the handlebar, since as you slide it up, it rolls up a bead of goop above the grip as you slide it on.  And then you squirt more sticky stuff down inside the Iso grip than actually on the handlebar (there's a lot of crevices inside there due to the rubbers); if any pops out the rubbers sliding them on, it wipes off easily.  Then position the rubbers best for your hand.  As the throttle is always a bit more tricky than the left, I always do the throttle first, then match my work and position on the left.  

You obviously use more RTV than you would super/gorilla glue.  If you use super/gorrila glue, always do the throttle first. Then you can easily match up the rubber on the left with wherever the throttle side ended up being stuck forever

You need to let RTV setup overnight before riding.  Downside with RTV is my throttle grip always starts to get a little loose after a year or two, never completely loose, but my (Kury) palm rest/throttle rocker will start to move around the bar a little each ride.  So then I'll yank it off (easy with RTV, not so easy with super glue) and re-glue it again as needed.  Never had a left side grip get loose because it is not being worked all the time like the throttle side.
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SteveC
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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2017, 12:22:49 AM »

This is great, Thanks!  Very helpful!


I found that an ice pick is the best tool for the job, least likely to booger anything up. After the end caps are off.

My compressor is so under powered it barely blows up my dolls.

If I want to save the ones coming off, I work the ice pick in, sister up/in the long skinny nozzle on a can of brake cleaner or WD40 or gummout carb cleaner (best) right next to the ice pick, and give it a squirt.  Then wiggle the pick in deeper.  Work around at say 12, 4, and 8 O'clock and the grip slides right off. 

But I don't ever plan to reuse stock grips, so then I just use a utility razor knife and slice them down the side (careful on the throttle sleeve), shoot a little solvent under the edges and peel them off and throw them away. (I've actually saved a few sliced up ones, as small pieces of that stuff make good cushions or bumpers in other small projects)

Rough up your chrome on the left side with harsh sandpaper so the grip glue works better.  I may do that a little to the plastic throttle sleeve, carefully. 

With Kury Iso grips (unlike OEs), you want the rubbers under the working parts of your hands (palms and fingerends), and you want the rubbers on both sides to match in position.  So I've been reluctant to use super glue or grip glue or anything that hardens up so fast if you don't get it right in 2-3 seconds you are screwed. 

So I use clear RTV sealant, which gives you all the time you want to position them just so.  And easier to clean up than sticky glue (which can glue the throttle to the control housing above it if not careful) (loosen that housing and slide it up a bit for easier cleanup if the handlebar allows it) (no need on the left grip).  If for any reason, one or both grips need to come off and then be stuck back on, working with dried rubbery RTV is always easier than super glue.

I've also discovered with Kurys, you get a light amount of sticky stuff with more near the end of the bar and less up the handlebar, since as you slide it up, it rolls up a bead of goop above the grip as you slide it on.  And then you squirt more sticky stuff down inside the Iso grip than actually on the handlebar (there's a lot of crevices inside there due to the rubbers); if any pops out the rubbers sliding them on, it wipes off easily.  Then position the rubbers best for your hand.  As the throttle is always a bit more tricky than the left, I always do the throttle first, then match my work and position on the left.   

You obviously use more RTV than you would super/gorilla glue.  If you use super/gorrila glue, always do the throttle first. Then you can easily match up the rubber on the left with wherever the throttle side ended up being stuck forever

You need to let RTV setup overnight before riding.  Downside with RTV is my throttle grip always starts to get a little loose after a year or two, never completely loose, but my (Kury) palm rest/throttle rocker will start to move around the bar a little each ride.  So then I'll yank it off (easy with RTV, not so easy with super glue) and re-glue it again as needed.  Never had a left side grip get loose because it is not being worked all the time like the throttle side.
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Jess from VA
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2017, 01:43:37 AM »

I forgot:  When sliding the grips slowly up the bar, twist them around in a circle at the same time.  You get a more even spread of glue on the inside this way.  As they get all the way on, you want one row of rubbers directly under the middle of your palms as you would sit comfortably on the bike and reach for the grips.  The other row of rubbers will be under the last two joints of your fingers on the other side.

If you didn't get the Iso Kury throttle boss for the throttle side, you should.  Using the 4-screw end caps, position that boss flap up at about 10 o'clock (looking at the end of the bar), the idea being that when twisting the throttle down to run the bike at about 45-60 mph (usual cruising speeds), you can slide your hand down the grip and hold an even speed with your palm (at which point, the boss is now sitting at about 7-8 o'clock).  I see they are making some larger throttle bosses for the Iso's now.  I have the original smaller one (below).  I would not want the boss to interfere with my usual higher grip on the throttle when cranking and banking and going through the gears.  



Finally, Kury sells (1500) Valk specific Iso grips that are like 6 1/4" (extra) long, and they come with spacers to drop down in the grip to lend rigidity to the ends, if they are positioned beyond the handlebar ends a bit (and I think they do on the 1500, leaving the control boxes above the grips in the stock position).  But regular one inch bar universal Iso's (5 1/2 or 3/4" long) will also work and need no spacers.  I don't know which you bought.  

With the longer grips, the throttle boss on the end will not interfere even with the biggest hands. But if you got the 5 3/4" grips it could possibly interfere with large hands, and if so, the solution is to turn the boss around and aim it out from the end of the grip, rather than the usual up-the-grip position (like in the picture).

I think I'm done.   Grin

« Last Edit: January 16, 2017, 01:59:22 AM by Jess from VA » Logged
hubcapsc
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2017, 04:04:12 AM »


I took my 1800 grips off when I changed bars, and reused them, I don't like
the big fat chrome grips, OEM grips all the way for me...

I think I used air to get the clutch side off, and alcohol to slip it back on, no glue
or anything.

If something sticky is needed, back in the dirt-bike days we used to
put spray paint down in there, it worked as a lube to get them on and
as a glue of sorts to hold them in place...

-Mike
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bassman
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2017, 05:19:27 AM »

http://www.bigbf.com/bigbf_shop/

Dis help?
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