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									 «  on: January 18, 2017, 04:43:15 PM »  | 
								
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							Ride Safe Ron
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									 « Reply #1 on: January 22, 2017, 06:44:23 AM »  | 
								
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							I heard about this bill but didn't know it failed. I would never support a helmet law but I always wear safety gear. ATGATT. I find it ironic that most motorcyclists probably wear seat belts. Why isn't there a protest movement to remove seatbelt laws. I try to make my personal policies consistent. If everyone had to clean up brain matter, as I have, they would take another approach to safety.   
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									 « Reply #2 on: January 22, 2017, 07:13:49 AM »  | 
								
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							I heard about this bill but didn't know it failed. I would never support a helmet law but I always wear safety gear. ATGATT. I find it ironic that most motorcyclists probably wear seat belts. Why isn't there a protest movement to remove seatbelt laws. I try to make my personal policies consistent. If everyone had to clean up brain matter, as I have, they would take another approach to safety.  
  A helmet has saved me twice. But I have on occasion ridden without. Not too much though. But I have to admit I never wear a seatbelt. I'm not in favor of mandatory laws except for children. At 18 you should be able to decide for yourself.  
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									 « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2017, 07:20:21 AM »  | 
								
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							I do not support Helmet laws. I do wear a Helmet and my Seat Belt at all times.
  Have never needed the Helmet but the Seat Belt has saved me from injury several times, including the time I found myself hanging from it when the action stopped.
  You should be aware that Juries have taken Helmet and Seat Belt use into consideration when issuing a verdict.
  
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									 « Reply #4 on: January 22, 2017, 08:36:46 AM »  | 
								
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							I do not support Helmet laws. I do wear a Helmet and my Seat Belt at all times.
  Have never needed the Helmet but the Seat Belt has saved me from injury several times, including the time I found myself hanging from it when the action stopped.
  You should be aware that Juries have taken Helmet and Seat Belt use into consideration when issuing a verdict.
 
  How so ?   
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									 « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 04:25:36 AM »  | 
								
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							You should be aware that Juries have taken Helmet and Seat Belt use into consideration when issuing a verdict. [/quote]How so ?  [/quote] If this is what you are asking about, a portion of the blame for injuries is assigned to the person not wearing a protective device. If you are Picky like Ron and want me to cite case law you are out of luck.    
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									 « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 07:40:25 AM »  | 
								
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							You should be aware that Juries have taken Helmet and Seat Belt use into consideration when issuing a verdict.
 
  How so ?  [/quote] If this is what you are asking about, a portion of the blame for injuries is assigned to the person not wearing a protective device. If you are Picky like Ron and want me to cite case law you are out of luck.   [/quote]      
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									 « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 10:16:03 AM »  | 
								
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               " But I have to admit I never wear a seatbelt. I'm not in favor of mandatory laws "   Respectfully mister Head how do you operate your Valkyrie and other vehicles in Arizona without following the mandatory insurance law ? Either you must be insured through a company or self insured through self insure with a 40K bond. Mandatory..... 
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									 « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 10:23:14 AM »  | 
								
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               " But I have to admit I never wear a seatbelt. I'm not in favor of mandatory laws "   Respectfully mister Head how do you operate your Valkyrie and other vehicles in Arizona without following the mandatory insurance law ? Either you must be insured through a company or self insured through self insure with a 40K bond. Mandatory.....
 
 I should have been clearer. I'm not in favor of mandatory helmet or seatbelt laws.     
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									 « Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 11:07:37 AM »  | 
								
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							I never leave my house without my helmet........but I would never vote for a helmet law........freedom of  choice.............there is a hidden law that states........if you are injured in a motorcycles accident and you aren't wearing your helmet......the person at fault doesn't have to pay...........just sayin....   
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									 « Reply #10 on: March 07, 2017, 03:29:26 AM »  | 
								
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							I always wear a seatbelt when riding my motorcycle. 
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									 « Reply #11 on: March 17, 2017, 09:56:10 PM »  | 
								
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							My life insurance will not pay if I'm killed in a motorcycle wreck without a DOT helmet in place 
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