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Author Topic: Dreaded hydrolock I DID IT !!!!! Broke idler gear  (Read 2314 times)
BADNUF
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« on: April 22, 2017, 08:25:51 PM »

now i have pull engine any tips or tricks out there to make the job easier. Freakin out but gotta do it. T.I.A. for any info that will help me out.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2017, 08:28:20 PM »

A strong buddy and use a dual rail style bike lift to rest and move the motor once it's out. 

At least on the Valkyrie, hydrolock damage is (relatively) minor.  PIA to fix, but minor.  On early Goldwings (I've had a bunch), it's catastrophic.  Bends rods.
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BADNUF
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2017, 08:38:49 PM »

Thanks i got the jack and i just put hooks from ceiling to hang straps from hold frame up while doing it but i am doing this solo i dont have anyone to help well correction one of my daughters is gonna help when needed im sweating from what i read the clutch basket is a bitch and need special tools that i dont have but hey i will figure it out wish the made it so you can just swap gear i see it just cant pull it out without removing engine it is a pia for sure. Thanks for the confidence of it be easy i hope so guess ill find out. Thanks
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 07:14:00 AM »

My bike after being stripped down.



I'm trying to remember, placed the jack stands on the side of the frames. Unbolted the engine supports. Removed anything holding the engine in place (wires, hoses), I used a floor jack to support it and roll it forward, a second person to support it would be helpful, so it doesn't fall off.

I had a flat moving dolly, and placed it on there to work on it.
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desertrefugee
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2017, 11:00:59 AM »

...by the way.  That there is a fine looking Valkyrie, BADNF!

(from a native tarheel neighbor).
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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2017, 11:14:17 AM »

Take your time. Read up on What you are going to do. Read it Again. Have book close at hand while operating. NO-I have NOT done this BUT It's like most things-I didn't KNOW what an ejection seat was before I went in the Navy. Navy Taught me HOW to work on them. After we READ came Practical application. READ then APPLY. Good Luck. IF you KNOW which end of a wrench to hang onto and can READ yer 95% THERE!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2017, 01:20:06 PM »

When you put it back together install an electronic fuel shut off, worth its weight in gold. cooldude
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2017, 02:28:10 PM »

Thanks i got the jack and i just put hooks from ceiling to hang straps from hold frame up while doing it but i am doing this solo i dont have anyone to help well correction one of my daughters is gonna help when needed im sweating from what i read the clutch basket is a bitch and need special tools that i dont have but hey i will figure it out wish the made it so you can just swap gear i see it just cant pull it out without removing engine it is a pia for sure. Thanks for the confidence of it be easy i hope so guess ill find out. Thanks

That is some tank! impressive.

air gun to remove clutch and basket nuts. search clutch repair on how to use a 2x4 and some bolts to hold them for final torque.
I think there are some repair post whereas they didn't completely remove the engine, I could be wrong on that though.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2017, 05:47:30 AM »

You might try and contact Gavin Sons, or wait until he chimes in--he watches the board and has done several hydrolock fixes.  Gavin--hope you don't mind me bringing you into this.

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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2017, 09:55:56 AM »

You might try and contact Gavin Sons, or wait until he chimes in--he watches the board and has done several hydrolock fixes.  Gavin--hope you don't mind me bringing you into this.

Greg

just saw this. Hydrolock sucks. Time consuming but easy fix. I made all my own tools. I'll get you the sizes tonight when i get home. Bought sockets from the local farm store and cut the ends off and welded a piece of black pipe on the socket and the end back on the black pipe to make extra long deep sockets. also made a clutch basket holder so you can torque the basket to the right specs.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2017, 10:02:29 AM »

The clutch basket is not that bad at all. The whole clutch pack comes out together and the worst part is getting the big nut off the inside of the basket. A impact works well for this. If i remember correctly when you try to spin that nut the main drive wants to turn with it and i used the u joint to hold it in place while spinning that nut off. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2017, 06:31:43 PM »

Thank you all for the tips im going slow and easy the engine is about the only thing i havent removed from the bike i have the manual and ill give it a read through but i always learn better just by doing . ill take pics step by step in case of brain fart and dive in . ill let ya know when i get her up and running . Thank again, JOhn aka Badnuf
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2017, 10:17:21 PM »

Don't forget to fix the fuel issue(s) that led to the problem. 
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2017, 07:27:40 PM »

Don't forget to order a new clutch housing gasket. I wouldn't reuse the old one or you might have leaks.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2017, 09:55:34 AM »

Don't forget to order a new clutch housing gasket. I wouldn't reuse the old one or you might have leaks.

It normally tears on the way off anyway. You will need the clutch housing gasket and rear case gasket.
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