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Author Topic: What happens on a Standard in a tip-over?  (Read 1351 times)
Dale_K
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« on: June 01, 2017, 01:47:22 PM »

I witnessed a guy tip over his bike at a stop sign today (wife on the back).  He was on a Kawasaki with factory bags and therefore he had crash bars both front and rear.  It was pretty easy to right the bike afterwards.

It got me thinking about my 98 Standard with no rear crash bars.  What happens in a tip-over with this model?  Does it damage anything at the rear of the bike?  Can you ride it away after getting it back on its feet?
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Gryphon Rider
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Calgary, Alberta


« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 02:29:25 PM »

Good question.  I know on a Tourer the engine guard and saddle bag guard touch at about the same time.  I suspect that in a gentle get-off the engine guard will prevent a farther tip.
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2017, 02:40:07 PM »

We had a get off with the standard. The crash bars protected the engine and the leather saddle bags protected the rear. Had they been hard bags, the right side bag would have been toast.
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Blackduck
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West Australia


« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2017, 05:28:41 PM »

Bit of gravel rash on the crash bar and a little right on the exhaust tip.
Can get the clutch or brake lever and or mirror if it goes right over, rocks on the crash bar.
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klb
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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2017, 06:25:34 PM »

I had a 2001 standard that got hit from behind while parked and pushed 25 ft on the left side.
Only damage besides the rear fender and all lights was the engine guard and a few scratches on the exhaust cover that was not noticeable.
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John Schmidt
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De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2017, 06:35:56 PM »

Many years ago I got bumped from behind while on an old '76 Wing. It knocked me over but the bike did't sustain any damage, can't say the same for the obnoxious kid that was driving. He didn't come with "engine guards."   Wink
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MarkT
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2017, 06:41:06 PM »

I had a get-off at 70 on Deerslayer.  The bike flipped and slid on both sides.  All of the damage was cosmetic but it was substantial.  Repairs were $13,500.  Windshield, handlebar, brake and clutch master cylinders and levers, mirrors, seats, tank, headlight, both fenders, saddlebags, my first dual air horn, the pipes, radiator, one of the valve covers, the cam belt cover, the fork, of course the crash bar, the marker light pods, the big spots.  The only unctional damage was to the broken lever - don't remember which now.  I could have ridden it home if the EMT's hadn't insisted they haul me to the hospital.  (That was OK, as my right fibula was severed but I didn't know it yet.)  I was fortunate to be insured by State Farm, they paid it in full though it was more than the cost of the bike new.  They paid because I had a lot of mods to the bike and could document them - it was covered over $20,000.
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sandy
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2017, 09:25:41 PM »

Lay a packing blanket on your driveway. Carefully lay it over with an extra guy to lift it. See what hits without letting damage happen.
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Blackduck
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2017, 01:36:05 AM »

Easier to just go back and read my earlier post, all first hand experience
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old2soon
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2017, 01:47:29 PM »

Laid over on my I/S last August. Rolled the left road peg back a wee mite. I was down to walking speed when that happened-medical short coming WHY I went down in the first place.  uglystupid2 Yup-tryin to be a smart ass-Don't lay it down!  Roll Eyes RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2017, 07:13:11 AM »

As mentioned the engine guards protect the bike quite well but getting it back up requires some strength or an extra hand or ....
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2017, 07:27:27 AM »

As mentioned the engine guards protect the bike quite well but getting it back up requires some strength or an extra hand or ....

I finally tipped one of my bikes over a month or so ago... the 1800, not the 1500... I
used the "butt method" shown here to quickly lift it back up so that nobody
would ever know.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+pick+up+your+bike+if+it+tips+over&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#kpvalbx=1

-Mike "D'OH!"
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Chippy01
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Gorey, Ireland


« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2017, 02:25:37 PM »

I had the same worries myself a few years back.
After searching the interweb for ideas, I found some pics (along with an e-mail contact) of some home made rear bars. The husband of the lady whose bike it was, had constructed them himself.
After a couple of e-mails back and forth, I managed to 'design' something similar and took the design to a fabricator.

http://s107.photobucket.com/user/Chippy01_2006/media/Valkyrie%20Pics/Pattern_zpszkp3pbdi.jpg.html?sort=3&o=21
Here is the design (very similar to the originators bars)

http://s107.photobucket.com/user/Chippy01_2006/media/Valkyrie%20Pics/Back%20Bars_zps9o0j678c.jpg.html?sort=3&o=20
Here is what I had made up. I believe the fabricator used some scrap stainless he had lying around.

http://s107.photobucket.com/user/Chippy01_2006/media/Valkyrie%20Pics/IMAG0048_zps10757da0.jpg.html?sort=3&o=18
And here they are on the bike, under the pillion pegs.
I wrapped the bars in self amalgamating tape and painted the brackets before installation. An added bonus, is that the pillion (in this case my good lady) can flip the pillion pegs and use the rear bars as an alternative footrest if needed.


Please excuse the links, it's been so long that I have forgotten how to post pics here. I've been trying for an hour to do it, but eventually gave up.
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