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Roadog
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« on: August 16, 2017, 01:14:45 PM »

  Seems they are no longer in business.  I think he retired. Need source for GD 525 and GD570 . I went to the BMW web site but they are all out of stock.  Has to be a good alternative , quality moly lube that is water proof. Please advise and thanks.

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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2017, 02:00:18 PM »

Go with Honda OEM
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2017, 03:18:45 PM »



This stuff is 65% moly.  Check the technical statistics in the PDF.
http://na.henkel-adhesives.com/product-search-1554.htm?nodeid=8797877698561
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2017, 03:18:57 PM »

You can get a good tub of moly at Graingers... that's where
we got Stanley Steamer's, I bet he never runs out...

EDIT: I think Graingers has the same kind Valkorado posted...

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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2017, 04:39:56 PM »

Go with Honda OEM

That Honda 60 grease is good for the drive shaft and pinion cup but I wouldn't use it on the drive splines
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2017, 05:26:55 PM »

ok. I miss read. true.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2017, 06:47:17 PM »

TSMoly.com is what the guard dog was.

I mix this paste with their moly grease.
http://www.tsmoly.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ts-70&search_in_description=1

notice it is the same # as Guard dog.
http://www.tsmoly.com/grease-moly-grease-p-251.html
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2017, 05:25:18 AM »

TSMoly.com is what the guard dog was.

I mix this paste with their moly grease.
http://www.tsmoly.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ts-70&search_in_description=1

notice it is the same # as Guard dog.
http://www.tsmoly.com/grease-moly-grease-p-251.html


Holy crap ! What's with the prices on your first link?
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2017, 06:14:11 AM »

TSMoly.com is what the guard dog was.

I mix this paste with their moly grease.
http://www.tsmoly.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ts-70&search_in_description=1

notice it is the same # as Guard dog.
http://www.tsmoly.com/grease-moly-grease-p-251.html


Holy crap ! What's with the prices on your first link?


$24 for 4 oz jar. moly is a mined mineral, from some research I did, epa/last administration mining restrictions/costs caused prices to jump higher. not political!, just the facts! it was half that price when I bought it 10yrs ago.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2017, 07:59:07 AM »


You can get a 5 gallon bucket of moly for $1,200 on Amazon  cooldude

-Mike "they actually sell it by weight..."
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2017, 08:34:25 AM »

I bought a tub of the Loctite on Amazon for $38.  Figure it will last longer than me.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2017, 08:12:54 PM »

Betray water proof, any auto parts store.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2017, 11:15:38 AM »

Bel Ray waterproof grease is for wheel splines. The driveshaft calls for moly grease which has a minimum of 2% moly. Valvoline Durablend grease is 3% moly which I've used on the driveshafts of 3 of my Valks and numerous others. Never lost a spline or driveshaft.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2017, 06:21:34 PM »

Bel Ray waterproof grease is for wheel splines. The driveshaft calls for moly grease which has a minimum of 2% moly. Valvoline Durablend grease is 3% moly which I've used on the driveshafts of 3 of my Valks and numerous others. Never lost a spline or driveshaft.

manual calls for 60% moly paste for splines. I mix sticky 60% moly grease with the 70% moly paste.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2017, 08:33:40 PM »

Bel Ray waterproof grease is for wheel splines. The driveshaft calls for moly grease which has a minimum of 2% moly. Valvoline Durablend grease is 3% moly which I've used on the driveshafts of 3 of my Valks and numerous others. Never lost a spline or driveshaft.

manual calls for 60% moly paste for splines. I mix sticky 60% moly grease with the 70% moly paste.

It doesn't matter what Honda says, Every pro mechanic uses Bel Ray with no problems. After over 150K on Valks, I've had a lot of experience with servicing several of them.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2017, 04:52:33 AM »

I run Castrol LMM (Spheerol) on both sets of splines, has up to 3% Moly.
This stuff was designed for Constant Velocity Joints

All splines look good and there is always a good covering of lube at wheel change/ rear end servicing.

A mate has only ever run plain grease and has over 200K miles on his 97 and they are still good.
Part of the secret is regular servicing.


You can also get Castrol SBX with up to 10% Moly plus up to 3% Graphite.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2017, 06:21:39 AM »

I run Castrol LMM (Spheerol) on both sets of splines, has up to 3% Moly.
This stuff was designed for Constant Velocity Joints

All splines look good and there is always a good covering of lube at wheel change/ rear end servicing.

A mate has only ever run plain grease and has over 200K miles on his 97 and they are still good.
Part of the secret is regular servicing.


You can also get Castrol SBX with up to 10% Moly plus up to 3% Graphite.


Well said.  Regular maintenance and a quality waterproof grease is key. 

That Honda 60 black tube is not waterproof and even though it is called a paste the instructions on the tube say to use it as a grease.. It is not up to the task for the drive splines (confirmed to me by Honda)

Regular maintenance and proper assembly procedure is very important.
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