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The chief NASA scientist in charge of monitoring the south polar ice cap. He said "There is some loss of ice and it's enough to raise sea levels 1 millimeter a year". So Al Bore's 20 feet rise would take 6,096 years at this rate. I would imagine that since we were being told we were entering an ice age a mere 30 years ago that there will be another swing in the earths demeanor in that time. The B.B.C (not a den of conservatives) has also just released a report stating hat there has been no significant increase in global warming in the last 10 years. FLAME SUIT ON 
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2009, 06:46:27 AM » |
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Can't blame Al...he's just making it in the world like the rest of are trying to do. He's come up with an idea, pushing it as far as he can, getting rich off of it by making tens of thousands for each speach and appearance he makes. Good for him! 
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2009, 06:56:52 AM » |
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The chief NASA scientist in charge of monitoring the south polar ice cap. He said "There is some loss of ice and it's enough to raise sea levels 1 millimeter a year". So Al Bore's 20 feet rise would take 60,960 years at this rate. I would imagine that since we were being told we were entering an ice age a mere 30 years ago that there will be another swing in the earths demeanor in that time. The B.B.C (not a den of conservatives) has also just released a report stating hat there has been no significant increase in global warming in the last 10 years. FLAME SUIT ON  I can't figure you out sometimes, you post no global warming in 10 years but then you put your flame suit on. WHICH IS IT!! Raymond
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The chief NASA scientist in charge of monitoring the south polar ice cap. He said "There is some loss of ice and it's enough to raise sea levels 1 millimeter a year". So Al Bore's 20 feet rise would take 60,960 years at this rate. I would imagine that since we were being told we were entering an ice age a mere 30 years ago that there will be another swing in the earths demeanor in that time. The B.B.C (not a den of conservatives) has also just released a report stating hat there has been no significant increase in global warming in the last 10 years. FLAME SUIT ON  I can't figure you out sometimes, you post no global warming in 10 years but then you put your flame suit on. WHICH IS IT!! Raymond 
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2009, 07:33:46 AM » |
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Can't blame Al...he's just making it in the world like the rest of are trying to do. He's come up with an idea, pushing it as far as he can, getting rich off of it by making tens of thousands for each speech and appearance he makes. Good for him! I couldn't agree, G-man. Applauding the success of one who makes his money by spreading misinformation and fear is akin to congratulating the most innovative mugger.
Unless, of course, you think Al really believes his message despite the contrary evidence.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2009, 07:54:28 AM » |
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2009, 09:21:56 AM » |
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The chief NASA scientist in charge of monitoring the south polar ice cap. He said "There is some loss of ice and it's enough to raise sea levels 1 millimeter a year". So Al Bore's 20 feet rise would take 6,096 years at this rate. I would imagine that since we were being told we were entering an ice age a mere 30 years ago that there will be another swing in the earths demeanor in that time. The B.B.C (not a den of conservatives) has also just released a report stating hat there has been no significant increase in global warming in the last 10 years. FLAME SUIT ON  Apparently you're listening to NPR from last March. Or it's taken this long for the internet to inform you. In fact, however, the NPR report is not nearly as optimistic as you suggest. "..."The main reason that it collapsed in the past is the ocean has gotten warmer around the periphery of Antarctica, increasing the rate of melting of these floating ice shelves which fringe West Antarctica," Pollard says. These floating ice shelves act like buttresses to keep the much larger ice sheet pinned back. And whenever the shelves melt away, the ice behind them flows into the sea and sea levels rise. Warming ocean water around Antarctica, by maybe 2 to 5 degrees Celsius, could trigger that chain of events, Pollard says. That degree of ocean warming is not forecast for this century, but at the rate the planet is heating up, it seems inevitable at some point. But Pollard's study indicates that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet won't melt away too rapidly. He figures that will take at least 1,000 years, and more likely 2,000 to 3,000 years. But instead of being reassured by this long time horizon, Pollard says, "I'd say I feel more nervous." That's because there's now a clear history showing this massive ice sheet has melted before, under conditions that the Earth may soon experience. And while the full effect may not unfold for thousands of years, it would transform the planet into a place we would not recognize today..." Moreover, it is not simply the melting of the Antarctic ice shelf that is the problem. By the time the Antarctic Ice Shelf melts, we'd all be living in ocean front property in Denver anyway. From the same NPR report... "...Stefan Rahmstorf at Postsdam University in Germany says there are still so many unknowns about how Antarctic ice behaves that Pollard's study is surely not the final word on this subject. Nor does it have to be. "We certainly don't need a collapse of the ice sheet to cause major problems with sea level rise," he says. Even if Antarctica contributes little or no water to the oceans this century, Rahmstorf says, there's a growing consensus that seas are likely to rise by at least 2 or 3 feet — and quite possibly more — before the end of this century "unless of course we stop the global warming fairly soon." Finally, the claim that it ain't as bad as we thought is simply not true...It's worse. " http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/09/23/big-melt-greenland/?refid=0"
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The chief NASA scientist in charge of monitoring the south polar ice cap. He said "There is some loss of ice and it's enough to raise sea levels 1 millimeter a year". So Al Bore's 20 feet rise would take 6,096 years at this rate. I would imagine that since we were being told we were entering an ice age a mere 30 years ago that there will be another swing in the earths demeanor in that time. The B.B.C (not a den of conservatives) has also just released a report stating hat there has been no significant increase in global warming in the last 10 years. FLAME SUIT ON  Apparently you're listening to NPR from last March. Or it's taken this long for the internet to inform you. In fact, however, the NPR report is not nearly as optimistic as you suggest. "..."The main reason that it collapsed in the past is the ocean has gotten warmer around the periphery of Antarctica, increasing the rate of melting of these floating ice shelves which fringe West Antarctica," Pollard says. These floating ice shelves act like buttresses to keep the much larger ice sheet pinned back. And whenever the shelves melt away, the ice behind them flows into the sea and sea levels rise. Warming ocean water around Antarctica, by maybe 2 to 5 degrees Celsius, could trigger that chain of events, Pollard says. That degree of ocean warming is not forecast for this century, but at the rate the planet is heating up, it seems inevitable at some point. But Pollard's study indicates that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet won't melt away too rapidly. He figures that will take at least 1,000 years, and more likely 2,000 to 3,000 years. But instead of being reassured by this long time horizon, Pollard says, "I'd say I feel more nervous." That's because there's now a clear history showing this massive ice sheet has melted before, under conditions that the Earth may soon experience. And while the full effect may not unfold for thousands of years, it would transform the planet into a place we would not recognize today..." Moreover, it is not simply the melting of the Antarctic ice shelf that is the problem. By the time the Antarctic Ice Shelf melts, we'd all be living in ocean front property in Denver anyway. From the same NPR report... "...Stefan Rahmstorf at Postsdam University in Germany says there are still so many unknowns about how Antarctic ice behaves that Pollard's study is surely not the final word on this subject. Nor does it have to be. "We certainly don't need a collapse of the ice sheet to cause major problems with sea level rise," he says. Even if Antarctica contributes little or no water to the oceans this century, Rahmstorf says, there's a growing consensus that seas are likely to rise by at least 2 or 3 feet — and quite possibly more — before the end of this century "unless of course we stop the global warming fairly soon." Finally, the claim that it ain't as bad as we thought is simply not true...It's worse. " http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/09/23/big-melt-greenland/?refid=0" As my post title clearly stated I JUST HEARD. That means this morning! If anyone thinks that man can alter the way the Earth reponds to ocean warming they are arrogant beyond all belief. Read a book named Atlantic to fully understand how the sun affects the oceans and the release of carbon dioxide from the oceans. WE AREN'T DOING IT.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2009, 09:37:35 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2009, 11:07:31 AM » |
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As my post title clearly stated I JUST HEARD. That means this morning!
If anyone thinks that man can alter the way the Earth reponds to ocean warming they are arrogant beyond all belief.
Read a book named Atlantic to fully understand how the sun affects the oceans and the release of carbon dioxide from the oceans. WE AREN'T DOING IT.
Uh, huh... For those actually interested in this complex topic, try http://www.realclimate.org/It won't provide simplistic answers, but you might actually learn something.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2009, 11:17:09 AM » |
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Can't blame Al...he's just making it in the world like the rest of are trying to do. He's come up with an idea, pushing it as far as he can, getting rich off of it by making tens of thousands for each speech and appearance he makes. Good for him! I couldn't agree, G-man. Applauding the success of one who makes his money by spreading misinformation and fear is akin to congratulating the most innovative mugger.
Unless, of course, you think Al really believes his message despite the contrary evidence. I was hoping that my smiley face with the popping eyes would suggest my sarcasm.
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2009, 11:23:16 AM » |
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I say let the ice caps melt! If our pal Al is correct, here in Orlando I'll be sitting on a fine piece of ocean front propery in just a couple more years 
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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2009, 11:28:00 AM » |
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The chief NASA scientist in charge of monitoring the south polar ice cap. He said "There is some loss of ice and it's enough to raise sea levels 1 millimeter a year". So Al Bore's 20 feet rise would take 6,096 years at this rate. I would imagine that since we were being told we were entering an ice age a mere 30 years ago that there will be another swing in the earths demeanor in that time. The B.B.C (not a den of conservatives) has also just released a report stating hat there has been no significant increase in global warming in the last 10 years. FLAME SUIT ON  Apparently you're listening to NPR from last March. Or it's taken this long for the internet to inform you. In fact, however, the NPR report is not nearly as optimistic as you suggest. "..."The main reason that it collapsed in the past is the ocean has gotten warmer around the periphery of Antarctica, increasing the rate of melting of these floating ice shelves which fringe West Antarctica," Pollard says. These floating ice shelves act like buttresses to keep the much larger ice sheet pinned back. And whenever the shelves melt away, the ice behind them flows into the sea and sea levels rise. Warming ocean water around Antarctica, by maybe 2 to 5 degrees Celsius, could trigger that chain of events, Pollard says. That degree of ocean warming is not forecast for this century, but at the rate the planet is heating up, it seems inevitable at some point. But Pollard's study indicates that the West Antarctic Ice Sheet won't melt away too rapidly. He figures that will take at least 1,000 years, and more likely 2,000 to 3,000 years. But instead of being reassured by this long time horizon, Pollard says, "I'd say I feel more nervous." That's because there's now a clear history showing this massive ice sheet has melted before, under conditions that the Earth may soon experience. And while the full effect may not unfold for thousands of years, it would transform the planet into a place we would not recognize today..." Moreover, it is not simply the melting of the Antarctic ice shelf that is the problem. By the time the Antarctic Ice Shelf melts, we'd all be living in ocean front property in Denver anyway. From the same NPR report... "...Stefan Rahmstorf at Postsdam University in Germany says there are still so many unknowns about how Antarctic ice behaves that Pollard's study is surely not the final word on this subject. Nor does it have to be. "We certainly don't need a collapse of the ice sheet to cause major problems with sea level rise," he says. Even if Antarctica contributes little or no water to the oceans this century, Rahmstorf says, there's a growing consensus that seas are likely to rise by at least 2 or 3 feet — and quite possibly more — before the end of this century "unless of course we stop the global warming fairly soon." Finally, the claim that it ain't as bad as we thought is simply not true...It's worse. " http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/09/23/big-melt-greenland/?refid=0" ...and this news brought to you by the same MPR that gives us this news. One is about as accurate as the other http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/10/30/stimulus-jobs/
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2009, 11:30:36 AM » |
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Uh, huh...So now Associated Press is part of the vast left wing media conspiracy, eh?
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« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2009, 09:42:55 PM » |
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Puff should stop riding his Gross polluting,10 yr old motorcycle and trade it for a vespa scooter as an example to us all in an effort to lead the way towards stopping this global warming. And we should all send money to the government so every American can be supplied with the necessary flotation equipment.
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« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2009, 09:56:32 PM » |
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I don’t understand, global warming can’t be that bad.
If I could get more cycle riding time in around here, that would mean I wouldn’t be feeding my F150 truck! So, if everybody did that, wouldn’t a longer summer mean less pollution from all those gas guzzling four wheel drive trucks needed to get around on our snow covered highways (that our local county governments can’t afford to plow anyway).
Oh yeah, I was watching CNBC and they’re saying $4 per gallon by the new year!! Good thing we haven’t started drilling yet!!
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