New product - Sidestand shoe - welded on, exchg. INTEREST?

[MarkT]

There have been several requests for sidestand extenders, for folks running tall tires.  Specifically the Austone Taxi Tyre.  I've looked online, nothing really out there other than bolt-on pucks to spread the weight out for parking on hot asphalt. Nothing to change the height, and nothing that will reliably not fall off.

I just bought a lot of used OEM sidestands from parters like Pinwall.  I'm looking at the details of what to make, with an exchange of your unmodified stand. I'm thinking of a welded-on SS foot, using SS weld.  Height and price and look TBD.  For now, I'd like to get a consensus.  Interest, and does the height of say a 2X4 meet most folk's need?  Stick a 2X4 under your stand - good height?

For now, I'm not thinking of making it variable height.  I might make it in a couple different heights.  I won't be making it shorter than OEM, that would be a different product based on cutting a section out of the OEM stand and rewelding it up near the pivot so the weld would be out of sight, not need to go to the plater - which is a higher stress location and I would be concerned about strength and liability.

I'm running a similar shoe on Jade now.  It's made of thickwall SS round tubing.  I'm thinking, thickwall SS square tubing with a bigger footprint for hot asphalt might be right. SS looks good shined up, won't rust or need plating.

[Jess from VA]

Mark, I'm betting that two heights would get it done.  Some just want a small assist (say 1/2-3/4 inch).  Others with say an Austone, may need a bit more (1.25"?) (just guessing)

But I don't need one (but thanks for asking).

Being of the shyster background, I suggest if you do this, you include a big bold warning that anyone getting this product assumes the risk and full responsibility for any damages caused if the rear tire goes flat and the bike goes over the other way (like onto their car).  And they agree to hold the seller harmless for any property damage, injury or death.  

And if you want more, just copy paste a short hold harmless agreement (copied off the interweb and custom tailored for your use) and require them to fill in the blanks, sign and date it (print the name under the signature), and return it to you (say with payment) before any product goes out.

Sorry that my faith in humans is so low.

[WintrSol]

I've been experimenting with a cut-of bit of pressure-treated 2x4, with an angle cut on the top to match the angle of the stand's foot. I haven't got it all worked out yet, but I put a strap over the stand's foot and use a small bungee cord from two eye screws to hold it on to the top of the stand's spring, so I can take it off whenever I will park the bike out of sight, and can't see if the tire is going down. I have a stock size tire, but am inseam-compromised, so if parked on the wrong side of a slope, sometimes need help righting the bike; the extra ~1.5" really makes a difference for me. Of course, righting the bike with my right foot on the peg helps, too. Statically, it works, but the stand foot slides around on it, so still working on a toe piece to keep it in place when the stand is up.

I planned to make it from steel if it is reliable, but it would be bolted together, as I am not a welder. If you come up with a removable one, it would save me a lot of work.

[turtle254]

Mark, I'm in for one

[MarkT]

I'm working on an adjustable design.

[Itinifni]

I'm interested Mark. I'm on m/c tires but still park my bike with a 2x under the stand in the garage. I haven't looked that hard but I'd be surprised if it would tip over with a 2x under the stand and one flat tire.

Will you be looking for sidestand exchange only or would you also want the bracket?

[MarkT]

Mark, I'm betting that two heights would get it done.  Some just want a small assist (say 1/2-3/4 inch).  Others with say an Austone, may need a bit more (1.25"?) (just guessing)

But I don't need one (but thanks for asking).

Being of the shyster background, I suggest if you do this, you include a big bold warning that anyone getting this product assumes the risk and full responsibility for any damages caused if the rear tire goes flat and the bike goes over the other way (like onto their car).  And they agree to hold the seller harmless for any property damage, injury or death.  

And if you want more, just copy paste a short hold harmless agreement (copied off the interweb and custom tailored for your use) and require them to fill in the blanks, sign and date it (print the name under the signature), and return it to you (say with payment) before any product goes out.

Sorry that my faith in humans is so low.

Thanks Jess.  Yes we are in a litigious world nowadays.  Tons of folks looking for whatever advantage can get them a free ride.  I think we don't see much of that in our community.  I have had just one yahoo threaten to sue me when I held him to my repeatedly printed policy warning in bold red font that he keep the packaging materials if he needs recovery for shipping damage - on every document - his receipt, his install instructions, on my website and on the box label.  He threw it away then found the damage and threatened to sue if I didn't fix his damage for free - of course Fedex denied it.  He would not own any of his responsibility and all he had to do was keep the boxes and packaging materials until he inspected the product.  

Otherwise I have such disclaimers on all my docs warning folks of potential issues (like slow down in the corners if you install the peg lower kit) that by installing the product they own responsibility for whatever happens.  I have not required a returned signed hold harmless document.

Meanwhile I am looking at the design for an adjustable extended side stand that has 2 positions.  Probably the OEM position, and one lower one.  Welded on, in SS.

But I have to get exisitng pipe and lift adapter orders out first.

[MarkT]

I'm interested Mark. I'm on m/c tires but still park my bike with a 2x under the stand in the garage. I haven't looked that hard but I'd be surprised if it would tip over with a 2x under the stand and one flat tire.

Will you be looking for sidestand exchange only or would you also want the bracket?

Don't see a need for the bracket now.  The design is still in my head, not on paper or prototyped.  I'm having some of the parts shipped to me tomorrow.