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Jess from VA
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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2018, 08:29:12 AM »

Why can't yous guys just pretend you're at a party.

Over in the corner next to the jukebox are some guys talking politics.  The jukebox is loud so they don't hear each other anyway.  In the other corner is a guy telling a story about a ride he just took.  In the kitchen are a bunch of guys chewing and talking with their mouths open and full of food debating where the best BBQ is. 

Pick a group and enjoy.  Not interested in the other two, don't go over there.  Interested in one of the other conversations, saunter between the two.

Why does it have to be an ALL or NOTHING thing?  Turn the channel.  Turn the page.  Move to the next conversation.

 

This. Whatever keeps the conversation lively will contribute to keeping the discussion alive here. I love the ride reports, but since they don't generally generate as much back and forth discussion, they don't generate as many replies or as many views (Since every time someone goes back into a thread to reply or see what was said, it ticks another view to the counter.) but that shouldn't detract from how much those types of threads are appreciated and enjoyed.


I also agree.  A ride report (or good how-to article) is the highest form of Bike Forum post.  But other than saying thanks for posting a ride report (I try to remember to do so), there's not much to else to say.  Posting ride reports with pics, and explanations, and maybe some history takes some time, so most of us do not want to thread drift or start side conversations inside those ride report threads (out of respect for the OP).

I enjoy coming here for purely bike posts, and for most of the other posts as well.  Discussing politics, or law and order, or firearms, or cars and trucks, or home repair, or current events is part of our community.  And if the thread title is decently descriptive (and they should be), bike purists can just skip them over.  

It is my experience that our collective membership has a high degree of experience in many fields (mechanics, HVAC, electrical, carpentry, roofing, concrete, computers, and on and on).  I know I have come on with harry homeowner questions a number of times, and got first class help and advice every time.  And I have always tried to provide sound advice in my professional field, whenever anyone comes on with a request for help.  I really like that this is part of our community.  

What I don't much care for is the arguments people get in over politics or conservatism/liberal stance on issues.  No one is going to change anyone else's mind on here, so why try?  As soon as the conversation goes.... you are an asshole and an idiot..... the thread is headed south.  We have a clear conservative majority here (and I'm glad we do).  When the few libs post up click bait, if you would just never respond or reply at all, things would go better for the forum.  And they might get tired of posting click bait.  Silence is not voicing agreement.  If you must rise to the bait, stick to arguing the issue and the facts, not calling the other guy an idiot (even if he is).
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¿spoom
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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2018, 09:32:18 AM »

Like OSS said.
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Wizzard
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2018, 09:59:34 AM »

Why can't yous guys just pretend you're at a party.

Over in the corner next to the jukebox are some guys talking politics.  The jukebox is loud so they don't hear each other anyway.  In the other corner is a guy telling a story about a ride he just took.  In the kitchen are a bunch of guys chewing and talking with their mouths open and full of food debating where the best BBQ is. 

Pick a group and enjoy.  Not interested in the other two, don't go over there.  Interested in one of the other conversations, saunter between the two.

Why does it have to be an ALL or NOTHING thing?  Turn the channel.  Turn the page.  Move to the next conversation.

 

This. Whatever keeps the conversation lively will contribute to keeping the discussion alive here. I love the ride reports, but since they don't generally generate as much back and forth discussion, they don't generate as many replies or as many views (Since every time someone goes back into a thread to reply or see what was said, it ticks another view to the counter.) but that shouldn't detract from how much those types of threads are appreciated and enjoyed.


I also agree.  A ride report (or good how-to article) is the highest form of Bike Forum post.  But other than saying thanks for posting a ride report (I try to remember to do so), there's not much to else to say.  Posting ride reports with pics, and explanations, and maybe some history takes some time, so most of us do not want to thread drift or start side conversations inside those ride report threads (out of respect for the OP).

I enjoy coming here for purely bike posts, and for most of the other posts as well.  Discussing politics, or law and order, or firearms, or cars and trucks, or home repair, or current events is part of our community.  And if the thread title is decently descriptive (and they should be), bike purists can just skip them over.  

It is my experience that our collective membership has a high degree of experience in many fields (mechanics, HVAC, electrical, carpentry, roofing, concrete, computers, and on and on).  I know I have come on with harry homeowner questions a number of times, and got first class help and advice every time.  And I have always tried to provide sound advice in my professional field, whenever anyone comes on with a request for help.  I really like that this is part of our community.  

What I don't much care for is the arguments people get in over politics or conservatism/liberal stance on issues.  No one is going to change anyone else's mind on here, so why try?  As soon as the conversation goes.... you are an asshole and an idiot..... the thread is headed south.  We have a clear conservative majority here (and I'm glad we do).  When the few libs post up click bait, if you would just never respond or reply at all, things would go better for the forum.  And they might get tired of posting click bait.  Silence is not voicing agreement.  If you must rise to the bait, stick to arguing the issue and the facts, not calling the other guy an idiot (even if he is).

Good post,, when in a debate and the other party starts calling me random names,, I know I won.
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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2018, 12:15:17 PM »

 We have a clear conservative majority here (and I'm glad we do).  When the few libs someone from either side posts up click bait, if you would just never respond or reply at all, things would go better for the forum.  And they might get tired of posting click bait.  Silence is not voicing agreement.  If you must rise to the bait, stick to arguing the issue and the facts, not calling the other guy an idiot (even if he is).

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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2018, 02:57:16 PM »

I can tell you .. Hubcap took the time to go through the song and dance to post a ride report with pictures he got 18 replys. Fat ass Roseanne Barr made a stupid comment on Tweeter and the count on this board is 80.. Why take the time y'all don't give a crap.

At one time hundreds of people posted on this board now the regular ones I could count on my fingers and toes. All this political BS y'all can't seem to live without is killing the VRCC I've heard it time and time again from folks that nolonger come here.

I agree with what Joe has said.  There are about four significant reasons that the board is diminishing and the continuous political sparring is high on the list.

Facebook has a like button
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Could we do that here?  Maybe put the button next to reply?
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No. It wouldn't help anyway.  What matters on this board is replies.  Replies move a post up on the list.  Most of our members don't get off the first page in looking for what to read.

Perhaps what we all need to do is reply to a ride post that we like reading.  It doesn't have to say much, maybe just, "Thank you."

We could also stop repeatedly posting crap that serves no purpose but to drive wedges into the divisions within our community. 
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Thunderbolt
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« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2018, 04:56:03 PM »

At one time I had 3 Valkyries but now have none.  Just my choice, I don't have a 2 wheeled machine of any sort and it was my choice, no one said I needed to or had to quit riding but I think our kids might have breathed a collective sigh of relief.  BUT I still get on the Florida and the General Board every day to see if there is a new Bruce Chronicle or other interesting posting.  Mike always makes his interesting with pictures and as someone else said you, Joe have taught a lot of us history of the areas that you include in your pictures.  I have seen a time or two when Mike's posts will have no or just a couple of replies and make sure to include my thank you just to keep it on the front page.  I don't care if folks post about political stuff, I just don't look at them once I see where it is going.
We have lost a lot of the older wiser folks to time and some have moved on to other newer machines but Joe Boyd sure did make a fine motorcycle.  Y'all keep on keepin on cause I still enjoy reading them.
We miss a lot of stuff that our kids assume that we see on Facebook because we don't have Facebook, don't want to.  I have enough people already trying to tend to my business or knowing if I went to the store for milk and bread.  But I know that there is a Facebook page and those that use it more power to them if that's what they want to do.  But if you want the "older" rank and file folks to "see" what you are doing then put it here on the General Board.
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JimmyG
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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2018, 04:57:22 AM »

We could also stop repeatedly posting crap that serves no purpose but to drive wedges into the divisions within our community. 

Amen brother cooldude
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Stanley Steamer
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« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2018, 08:22:43 PM »

I could throw out a few of my new Speedo pics.....that should keep the posting to a minimum!!! cooldude
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« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2018, 08:46:24 PM »

Facebook has a like button

It lets the world know you read a post and enjoyed it so if you have really nothing to add to the post all is well and good and the OP knows his (or her) post was read and enjoyed

Could we do that here?  Maybe put the button next to reply?

I am one of those who wishes he could get out more and post reports but sadly most of my riding is commuting in NYC and attempting to arrive safely home at the end of the day.  



This is the ONLY motorcycle forum I’m on that has no like button feature, I agree that really helps gauge what members think of posts and or other members. On ride reports I rarely respond, but from time to time I’ll ask questions about certain pics being posted or am wanting more information. I also like an option to rate a thread, this forum is pretty outdated compared to most.....but it’s still damn good and I enjoy it here.
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« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2018, 04:06:48 PM »

Joe,   I love ride reports, the music post,jokes and even some political crap and as you my have posted we ride an antique bike and as a group we are not getting younger that said lets meet in Roanoke and celebrate
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« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2018, 04:16:12 PM »

Antiques......riding antique bikes

Dan ( yeah I’m old )
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« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2018, 07:23:23 PM »

Joe,   I love ride reports, the music post,jokes and even some political crap and as you my have posted we ride an antique bike and as a group we are not getting younger that said lets meet in Roanoke and celebrate
cooldude
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Rams
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« Reply #52 on: June 07, 2018, 02:04:47 AM »

Yesterday there was a thread about the courage of those who served during WWII and specifically, on D Day.   It had a low reply count and not great view count.   I don't see any outrage in reference to that.    Roll Eyes  That saddens me but, it is what it is.   

We all have things that are important to us.   Reading and replying to threads is an indication of our interests, nothing more, nothing less.

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« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2018, 10:51:18 AM »

Yesterday there was a thread about the courage of those who served during WWII and specifically, on D Day.   It had a low reply count and not great view count.   I don't see any outrage in reference to that.    Roll Eyes  That saddens me but, it is what it is.   

We all have things that are important to us.   Reading and replying to threads is an indication of our interests, nothing more, nothing less.

Rams

This is a good example, in my opinion, of why some posts get little attention and low "read" counts. The subject line doesn't do a thing to entice people to click to read the message. I wouldn't have clicked at all, ever, if I hadn't read this post concerning it. I'm guessing that the few people who did read it were just curious to see what it was. I went back to see what it was all about and it was a great post! But, unfortunately, I'm one who would have never read it. The word "courage" on a motorcycle forum, could be about riding in traffic with people on cellphones. If folks want their message to be seen, it should have a subject line that makes them want to see the rest of the story.

If I posted a message titled "Challenger", on this motorcycle forum, I would expect few hits. But, if I posted with the title "My Challenger - Insane burnout", it would likely get a lot more hits and probably bring out the Dodge haters which would create a "lively discussion".

Opinion from a long time member who never posts but reads a lot.
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f6john
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« Reply #54 on: June 07, 2018, 03:46:25 PM »

Yesterday there was a thread about the courage of those who served during WWII and specifically, on D Day.   It had a low reply count and not great view count.   I don't see any outrage in reference to that.    Roll Eyes  That saddens me but, it is what it is.   

We all have things that are important to us.   Reading and replying to threads is an indication of our interests, nothing more, nothing less.

Rams

This is a good example, in my opinion, of why some posts get little attention and low "read" counts. The subject line doesn't do a thing to entice people to click to read the message. I wouldn't have clicked at all, ever, if I hadn't read this post concerning it. I'm guessing that the few people who did read it were just curious to see what it was. I went back to see what it was all about and it was a great post! But, unfortunately, I'm one who would have never read it. The word "courage" on a motorcycle forum, could be about riding in traffic with people on cellphones. If folks want their message to be seen, it should have a subject line that makes them want to see the rest of the story.

If I posted a message titled "Challenger", on this motorcycle forum, I would expect few hits. But, if I posted with the title "My Challenger - Insane burnout", it would likely get a lot more hits and probably bring out the Dodge haters which would create a "lively discussion".

Opinion from a long time member who never posts but reads a lot.


You make a valid point, but I don’t care about post counts or view numbers. If someone takes the time to have a look fine, if not, no harm no foul. I did think a post entitled courage posted on the anniversary of D-Day would catch a little attention. I’m probably looked at as one who posts too much political subjects and therefore passed over by many who see that as a detriment to the survival of the group.
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